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rosin · Post by **rosin** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:22 am

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horshur · Post by **horshur** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:40 am

rosin wrote:im new at this hunting with hounds and from what i have seen from other hunters there hounds know one thing and thats to tree game wich is what we all want the hounds to do was just wondering how far everyone takes there obediance training ie sit stay come and leash breaking

You will catch more game with a dog that has some handle......

Ike · Post by **Ike** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:41 am

rosin · Post by **rosin** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:52 am

i was told that coon hounds are not an obediant breed is this true i dont belive it to much is there different traing methods with hound than other dogs or is it the same pricipal

rosin · Post by **rosin** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:01 am

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Ike · Post by **Ike** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:43 am

Vickie Lamb has a couple books out on training hounds:

Dynamics of Hound Training
The Ultimate Hunting Dog Reference Book

C&H Publishing: 1(800)851-7507

John Wick also has a book titled "The Tree Dog Training Book" that claims 42 years of experience for $34.00
1(800)325-2112

I have not read either of these books nor do I know whether they will help you catch a lion, but they probably have lots of training information in them.

Good Luck,
ike

Melanie Hampton · Post by **Melanie Hampton** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:59 am

I think obedience is a big part of hunting.. There is nothing more I hate then a dog that wants to drag you everywhere when it is on a leash.. All of my hounds learn to walk on a leash from being little squirts... Teach them just like you would a lab... and IMO labs are much tougher to train then a hound...

Mine all know how to sit, get back, lay down, load on command, get their asses back to me on command and what NO means.. Mine are super well socialized because I have young nieces and nephews who like to hang off of them.. Mine are all housebroken, mainly for traveling out of state and staying at hotels.. I don't leave them in the dogbox..

My male Brisco, who just turned 5 in addition to the above items, shakes, speaks, rolls over and plays dead on command

He also fetches LOL Don't know how that has helped me at all except him retreiving items I have thrown in frustration

So for the obedience part of it.. Go for it..

bluedogs · Post by **bluedogs** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:51 am

one thing that will ruin the whole trip for me is when one of my hounds desides not to listen to me, when i say come i mean it when i say stay i mean it. i also teach them drop at a young age that way when you do shoot somthing out to them when you want to get it you dont have to fight with the dogs to get it away from them just say drop and thats it also i have taught them the word done when i am at a tree and i am not gonna shoot it out i say done so far this is working pretty good for me i still carry leashes with me just incase but its nice not having to leash them up and walk through the thick brush with a dog on the leash. other commands i teach are No, load up, up top ( i feed one of my dogs on top of her dog house and i tell her up top when i feed her. back up. i wish i would of taught them sit but i didnt. also when they are on leashes i hate a dog that trys to walk you i havnt really worked with them on this because i have them following me out of the woods when i say done but when i do leash them up i have to remind them every now and then of who is walking who LOL. a dog that listens makes the trip that much more pleasurable for me,

twist · Post by **twist** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:40 pm

This might be some advice you dont want to here but any hunter new to the sport or not should not be starting 3 young dogs and if this was even an option you should have a broke dog and a few years under your belt and this would make it some what easier. I am not saying training 3 young dogs cant be done but it will sure take the enjoyment out of hunting. Just work with 1 and put your heart and soul into him and things will be more productive. Get some experience under your belt before you start putting yourself through training 3 pups all at once, you well be glad you did. hope this helps

rosin · Post by **rosin** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:27 pm

twist ,
i hear what you are saying and if i could afford a finished seasoned dog i would have one that is if first of all find someone willing to part with one the reason i got 3 pups i was told that not all dogs will make the cut so better to have 2 or 3 and hope that maybe one will turn out so one has to do with what they have i also belive with enouf determination you can acheive anything

twist · Post by **twist** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:03 am

With that kind of determanation I believe you will make one of them work. A TRUE houndsmen has to have the heart and stamina to keep training and running hounds year after year, with that in mind you will do great.

Emily · Post by **Emily** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:34 pm

I split my time between the country and the city. My hounds have to be house dogs in the city--I live in a one bedroom second floor apartment in Brooklyn NY when I'm in town.
My older hound is better behaved in the city than most Brooklyn dogs. He walks beautifully on a leash in the city. That doesn't help much when hunting, though. When motivated to hunt, I can barely control him on leash and it is a constant, unpleasant battle until I unhook him. I sure wish he leash-walked better when hunting. Luckily, most places I hunt I can unhook him at the road and walk in with him. He also walks out off leash, although he walks fine on the leash on the way back from the tree.
He is very good at "Drop it." He has a lot of practice with that on the streets of Brooklyn, but will also drop a coon when hunting. A lot of coonhunters in this part of the world use "Mine" when they want the hound to give up the fur.
Another skill I find invaluable: Sit and Down. Hounds are not patient by nature, and Down is a trial for them, but it is awfully nice to be able to get your hound to hold still while you talk to someone else.
The most important obedience skill is to come on command. Good hounds don't want to quit hunting, but you need to be able to call them off when they get too near a highway or you just plain have to go home because you have to get to work, go to your wedding, or your kid is in the school play. Its pretty easy to teach a hound to come when the track is cold, but it isn't easy to teach a good hound to leave a hot track or a tree on command, and most of us don't do it. Sometimes, you just have to go to them. But there are going to be times when the hound is treed someplace you don't want to have to go, or it is hunting alongside the Interstate, when it sure helps if you can get their attention and get them to listen to you. I use a very loud whistle for this purpose. I don't recommend using a rifle because your hound will run off everywhere during rifle eason for deer.

rosin · Post by **rosin** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:05 am

thanx for all the advice i sure appreciate it and it sure helps to have a site like this to ask questions exspecially if your tring to figure out the hound hunting game

Spanky · Post by **Spanky** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:50 am

there is nothing more pleasant then an easy handling hound. Its nice in the morning to go out and open the kennel door and just say load up and find them sitting in the box compared to having to lift them up on the tailgate.

Its nice after walking out from a tree to be able to walk them out off the leash and not get drug around the woods when your butt is dragging already.

Its nice when you put them on an old blown out track that they are more then likely site running and you can call them in.

Commands like load up, walk or heal, come, back, down are all very important one's that will make your life more pleasant. Keep them simple, one or two words at the most.

Yep handling is just as important as tracking and treeing

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