How Long Before Wolves take Humans

[Ker_man]

I've been watching the wolf situation from the outside and am wondering how long before the wolves decide to hunt humans. They take dogs, livestock and are legaly protected.

Any reading I've done on wolf attacks would seem to say that wolf attacks in europe (historicly)were more frequent than in North America due to there being less game for the wolves to hunt and an absence of guns in common people's hands.

I think (only my opinion) that not being allowed to hunt or control wolves will have the same effect on their attitude as in old europe. They will become fearless and the packs will be strong and dominant with none of the alpha members being removed by hunting.

What are your thoughts? Terry.

[Doogie]

to late http://www.adn.com/2010/03/11/1179368/t ... olves.html

[mondomuttruner]

I hate to wish it on anyone but I think thats what its going to take to wake people up. In the evolutionary scheme of things animals come and go, the big dog should have left a long time ago!

[StrawberryMt]

to late http://www.adn.com/2010/03/11/1179368/t ... olves.html

Isn't it nice that the womans father didn't have any ill feelings about wolves

[mofo21]

"We'll stay as long as we can to make sure the public feels as safe as we can make them feel living in Alaska," he said
Read more: http://www.adn.com/2010/03/11/1179368/t ... z1CroXwX5u

glad they are just going to make everyone FEEL safe instead of making it safe

A group of snowmachiners found her a short time later. Her gloves were in the road and Berner's body had been dragged off the road down a hill.
Read more: http://www.adn.com/2010/03/11/1179368/t ... z1CrpUgXVi

Who in the hell goes for a run on a snowmobile trail?

"They're just doing what wolves do," Berner said. "Their nature happened to kill my daughter, but I don't have any anger towards wolves."
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wolves kill other animals humans kill animals wolves kill wolves people kill people (its been happening for thousands of years so i would call it natural). i bet if a person killed this guys daughter with a gun he would be all for gun control and trying to outlaw everything and be angry towards the person specially if it happened at school. jmo

[Doogie]

was she supposed to just go for a jog accross the snow covered tundra? id imagine by march a snomobile trail is pretty packed down.

[mofo21]

was she supposed to just go for a jog accross the snow covered tundra? id imagine by march a snomobile trail is pretty packed down.

lol im not sure but damn she must be in good shape cus running on a freshly groomed snowmobile trail isnt very easy! i couldnt imagine running a few miles on a snowmobile trail

[Doogie]

You see her pic at the top of the article :p she sure aint no lunch lady

[mofo21]

no i didnt see it. i will go back and check it out!!

[007pennpal]

My wolf story-

My brother in law, who was 16 at the time, and I were hunted by wolves when I was 19. This was in the year 1989. We hiked back into a muskie lake near the Minnesota / Canada border. We got dropped off by boat via a big lake and the plan was to hike a couple miles into the small muskie lake. Our plan was to be dropped off in the middle of the day with plenty of time to hike, but we ran into beaver marsh after beaver marsh. never making it to the lake by nightfall. We camped next to a beaver dam that was a land bridge and game trail connecting two peices of dry land. I remember commenting on bear tracks as we crossed over the dam.

In the middle of the night a pack of wolves came in to investigate us. They circled us calling to each other. I never saw more than one wolf at a time but by their calls I could tell there were at least four. We had no flashlight, no gun and the only knife was a small fillet knife. We were told that wolves sometimes visited the area but were rare. We had a campfire going but not too much wood collected. The pack circled closer dashing in and out of the fire light. The two of us boys stoked up the fire. We had a problem. Collecting firewood was scary cause we used all the wood in the circle of the light. If we let the fire die down, the wolves would press the light circle. I tried to fashion a torch but with limited success. It kept burning out. We did our best to dash out and grab some firewood. We'd yell and throw stuff at the shadows running around us in the night. The trees growing around us were maybe big enough to tree yourself. It never came to that, and I'm glad I didn't have to find out how high a wolf can jump or how many I could fight off. We just sharped sticks to fight with and had a sleepless night earning our firewood.

The pack moved off before first light. There was no question in my mind that those wolves wanted us for dinner. I guess we passed their test of easy prey.

I'm for killing all the wolves within a hundred miles of a road.

Sean

[MThound]

The link to: A Case History Of Wolf-Human Encounters In Alaska And Canada. Alaska Department Of Fish And Game Wildlife Technical Bulletin 13, 2002.

http://www.wildlife.alaska.gov/pubs/tec ... 3_full.pdf
http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/static/home/ ... 3_full.pdf


Another link to: Wolf Attacks On Humans

http://www.aws.vcn.com/wolf_attacks_on_humans.html




Neither of the two links contain the recent killings of Kenton Joel or Candice Berner who both were killed and eaten by wolves. Both of these two cases are well documented and easily found online.



Points North, Canada- Nov. 8, 2005, 22 year old Kenton Joel, an engineering student working at a mine in Northern Saskatchewan, was killed and eaten by wolves.



Chignik Lake, Alaska- March 10, 2010, 32-year-old Candice Berner, a young school teacher in Alaska was killed and eaten by a pack of wolves.



Hope this helps!

[Ker_man]

Thanks for the info. I knew that any of the lists that I had seen were not complete. I think though that wolves can be hunted in Sask. and Alaska. My point is that the wolves that are enjoying complete protection in the western states will eat someone soon.

I think that if father of the girl killed in Alaska still had another daughter walking trails in Alaska he would soon fear them.

[bob baldwin jr]

Ker-man : Sask as far as I know for Non-residents can NOT be hunted . The Sask outfitters Assoc is trying to get that passed this year . Though the Greenies Eco-FREAKS, and the Pro-wolfers are trying to fight it . BC and Alberta are open for wolf hunting . Not sure about the rest of the provinces . Jan 2012 we have a Alberta wolf hunt booked . I have seen 2 in Saskatchewan while deer hunting but never felt threatened . Watched them for about 10 minutes took some pictures . Blew on a grunt tube they turned and walked away

[Ker_man]

Bob I hope you guys have a good hunt, good luck with the wolves. I don't think anyone will feel with a deer rifle, it sure gives some assurance.

[blucoondawg1980]

I think that if one of us were attacked or killed that the tree huggers would only say "oh well, I guess that's gonna happen to those backward people who are always out in the woods with their dogs", I think the only thing that will open their eyes is when one of them get attacked, preferably in an area they think is "safe" like right on the edge of town, so they can see that the problem is unavoidable especially in places like WI where the population of wolves far exceeds the amount that the DNR even intends for the state to support. When there are more wolves than an area can support they need to be removed, these liberals seem to have a hard time realizing that the term "endangered species" refers to a specific number of living animals, and if there are more animals than that number, then they aren't endangered anymore.