Terrier crosses

[TonyLee]

Ya cost of import is way out of my prce range. Have 3 pretty fair patts now. I would like to add a good jagd just for something a little different.

[Mr.pacojack]

One of my very best hounds I have owned or have hunted with was half Jagd , half walker. she would lead any race, in dirt or snow. I hunted her a few times in Arizona on lion and bear and she would dry ground with the best of them.
All my coyote dogs are a Jagd cross. I just had a litter of pups I am toying with, 1/4 Jagd , 1/4 Ariedale and 1/2 Walker. They look like Black and Tans.

[TonyLee]

Hoping to hear from someone that had some first hand experience with crosses. I may never try one but nice to hear what's working for others. How did your wallker x jagd work she more hound like or something in between. Bet you don't have any pictuures you could put up of some of your dogs? I am curious on their size and build. That 1/4 cross sounds interesting for sure. Also how does the hound cross compare with a pure jagd on grit? Sorry for all the questions lol
Thanks
Tony

[BoarHunter1]

Ya cost of import is way out of my prce range. Have 3 pretty fair patts now. I would like to add a good jagd just for something a little different.

The Jagd is leggier than a Patt, faster, much better nose for tracking dead or alive and is very game.

Perhaps not quite as Dead Game as a Patt, but very close.


Jagds will close on any fur, but with a bit more discretion than Patts.



I dont see crossing hounds to terriers. It waters down the nose and the grit.
One either needs grittier hounds or terrier with more nose-Jagds are a good choice and best nose of the terriers.

Airedales to me are very overrated living off undeserved decades old reputation, and a waste of good dog food.

"The Dogs Of The British Islands", by J. H. Walsh.
The Airedale Terrier.

In support of my views, I shall quote from a letter just received from a gentleman who has owned Airedales, and whose opinions are identical with what I have stated. He writes:

"Airedale terriers are a failure.
The result of my experiences of them is that I find them to have good noses, they will beat a hedgerow, will find and kill rats and rabbits, and work well with ferrets. They are good water dogs and companions, possessing a fair amount of intelligence. This is the sum total of their excellence.

They came to me with a great reputation for gameness, but out of fourteen that I have personally tried at badger and fighting with a bull terrier of 241b., I have Never found one game - at least to my idea of the word".

This is strong speaking, but this gentleman's experiences corroborate every word of what has gone before, and the pitiful exhibition made by some Airedales when tried at a badger at Wolverhampton last January was literally the laugh of the show.

So far, I am aware that my endeavours to supply information about the origin of the Airedale have not been attended with success, but upon the merits of the breed I can speak with more authority, having had the benefit of the experience of a gentleman who took it up some short time back from the glowing accounts he had heard of its gameness and bottom.
The result was most mortifying.
He could make nothing of the dogs, and was heartily glad to get rid of them.
From what he tells me concerning Airedales, I have no doubt that they potter about the banks of a river, and take water well, and that they will kill rats, which, as they scale from 401b. to 501b., is not much in their favour.

I will even go further, and admit that specimens may be produced which will tackle a badger under protest; but not another step will I go in favour of the Airedales as a game, hard-bitten race.

Summing up the merits and demerits of the breed, it must be said of the Airedale that his want of heart, his size, the diversity of types, and tendency to throw back in breeding, are great drawbacks, which his fondness for water, scarcely out-balances.
Therefore, when we find, as I believe we can, that a wire-haired Scotch, Dandie Dinmont, Skye, Irish, or small bull terrier possesses all the gameness of the Airedale (in addition to which they take up one quarter of the room, and can go to earth), the question only remains,
" Why keep an Airedale ? '
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From Daily Terrier Dose Website
'In this particular case, even the word "terrier" does not tell you very much, as a pit bull is not a terrier by any definition (it is too large to go ground and it does not even look like a terrier). The pit bull is a molosser breed, pure and simple.

Adding the name "terrier" to its name does not change the reality, any more than calling me "Sue" would make me a woman. For the record, the pit bull is not the only "terrier" that has been misnamed.

The airedale is almost pure otterhound underneath it all, and is a terrier in appearance only do to tremendous amounts of clipping and breeding to make it look more and more like a welsh terrier.

Go look at an old Airedale picture (it is not a very old breed) and you will see it is just an odd looking otterhound that has been tidied up. A hound is not a terrier, not does the Airedale fit within the terrier form or function mold.''

[carl]

I had an airedale and i wouldnt call him a waste of good dog food. He was a decent coon dog that id run him with my walker. He actually die recently of cancer at 7 years old. I do agree there are crappy dogs in all breeds a little more in airedales because most of them are show dogs and the hunt has been bred out of them and more genetic problems are showing up because of breed standards b.s. and bad breeders. but if you can find one that is from hunting stock or working(which is hard to do) they can be the gritiest and bravest dogs you can have. This is just what i have noticed