Pure Camerons as Dryground Lion Hounds?

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I'm glad to hear that you are not pimping puppies Mike, cause there are far too many people in that business these days..........

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bluewalkerlionhound wrote:home of the true southwest hound but up North. copywrite#6478875344578

edited 4 u az. just get so tired of the same ol crap and smartass undertones



not that it matters but jim doesnt have joey and dirty is half bluedog/allen. potatoe,patotoe

ahh come on now blue i was only jokin with ya'll utah guys about that blue
i've had quite a few neighbors from utah, damn fine people

i just dont like to see a guy get his shit jumped for tellin it how he's seen it is all
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i dont own a son to hank but i do own 9 of his 6th generation grand kids 1/2 walkers and 1/4 Cameron and 1/4 black and tans pups witch are for sale $ 200 a pup call or contact Jeff Allen for references he will be getting two out of this liter to cover stud fees
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I have some Cameron dogs in my kennel. Mine run mostly wet ground but can follow in dust and rock. They are some cold nosed gritty SOBs. I lived in Montana. Still hunt there. There is some serious dry ground hunting in places where snow is not constant.
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007pennpal wrote:I have some Cameron dogs in my kennel. Mine run mostly wet ground but can follow in dust and rock. They are some cold nosed gritty SOBs. I lived in Montana. Still hunt there. There is some serious dry ground hunting in places where snow is not constant.
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i have yet to run my female on wet ground yet she runs in swamp land / sand & rocks / wood's stagnant water she is a fear less dog,took on a coon by her self pregnant too crazy dog . you got a picture of your dog buddy. my female i can guarantee when she has a con treed she has this unique double bark she does that lets me know that it is there in the tree to stay .....
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I'm not real good about taking pictures. There are some I have of my dogs on the post Tittled, Cameron hound pics.
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all reg hounds can and will make dry ground lion dogs.camrons are awesome.its all TRUELY , about putting your dogs in the woods. hunt them in the conditions you as a hunter want to hunt. a dog will learn by how many times you put that dog in those conditions and get better everytime.its 90 percent the owner of the dog that ruins the dog,lack of training on the owners part .hound hunting is a life style.i you WANT a dry ground lion dog then make him one. run fifty drags a year or maybe more depending on the dog in those conditions and you will make a dry ground dog.its about the hunter in what he puts into his dogs.which make dogs.and as far as reg breeds all are great.it is just what you as a hunter like blue, black ,red or white.and start them young. my two cents. dont just be a owner be a houndsman.we are a dieing breed- p.s put your time into your dogs.
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i also own one of del camrons reg blueticks wild willie.and he is going to be one bad ass maba jama.i hunt this dog every day.i cant wait to get off work to see him run and hunt.i will make a him bad ass dry ground lion dog.
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tjc carpenter wrote:all reg hounds can and will make dry ground lion dogs.camrons are awesome.its all TRUELY , about putting your dogs in the woods. hunt them in the conditions you as a hunter want to hunt. a dog will learn by how many times you put that dog in those conditions and get better everytime.its 90 percent the owner of the dog that ruins the dog,lack of training on the owners part .hound hunting is a life style.i you WANT a dry ground lion dog then make him one. run fifty drags a year or maybe more depending on the dog in those conditions and you will make a dry ground dog.its about the hunter in what he puts into his dogs.which make dogs.and as far as reg breeds all are great.it is just what you as a hunter like blue, black ,red or white.and start them young. my two cents. dont just be a owner be a houndsman.we are a dieing breed- p.s put your time into your dogs.


DRAGS!?
runnin drags is for pups too young to be in the woods. you wanna make a dry ground lion dog you take him to the desert, s. AZ, new mexico or south texas and put him on double that LIONS a year. runnin a billion scent drags wont catch you no game.
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arizonabeagle wrote:
tjc carpenter wrote:all reg hounds can and will make dry ground lion dogs.camrons are awesome.its all TRUELY , about putting your dogs in the woods. hunt them in the conditions you as a hunter want to hunt. a dog will learn by how many times you put that dog in those conditions and get better everytime.its 90 percent the owner of the dog that ruins the dog,lack of training on the owners part .hound hunting is a life style.i you WANT a dry ground lion dog then make him one. run fifty drags a year or maybe more depending on the dog in those conditions and you will make a dry ground dog.its about the hunter in what he puts into his dogs.which make dogs.and as far as reg breeds all are great.it is just what you as a hunter like blue, black ,red or white.and start them young. my two cents. dont just be a owner be a houndsman.we are a dieing breed- p.s put your time into your dogs.


DRAGS!?
runnin drags is for pups too young to be in the woods. you wanna make a dry ground lion dog you take him to the desert, s. AZ, new mexico or south texas and put him on double that LIONS a year. runnin a billion scent drags wont catch you no game.

Amen az beagle , Drags bring your dog to southern utah desert area ,
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tjc carpenter wrote:all reg hounds can and will make dry ground lion dogs.camrons are awesome.its all TRUELY , about putting your dogs in the woods.

run fifty drags a year or maybe more depending on the dog in those conditions and you will make a dry ground dog.


WOW. I may be far from an authority on dry ground lion dogs but even I know that is a crock of sh..!!!!!
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I don't think its really a crock. for the most part it sounds like excitement to me. I remember when I'd have done about anything for a hound. Lol. And if you can't hunt a dog running as difficult and natural a track as your able to lay shouldn't hurt it. Just keep the treeing shit to a minimum. As far as all hounds making good dirt dogs maybe its true. if I ever get over confident in my dog wrangling skills I may give it a try. But at the rate I'm going hounds maybe extinct. You have to admit those cooner ads. Say you should have that dog walking on thin air at six months. I do like the enthusiasm though. Wouldn't that be a true testament of the sport if all you had to do was grab a pup and put some time in and know it would come out a complete hound?? Hopefully those breeding hounds take up the quality challenge and the rest of us enjoy all the time in the field we can. with all the enthusiasm and confidence we can muster . I for one rather spend a day working hounds then setting in some metro office day dreaming about getting out with the dogs.
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tjc carpenter wrote:all reg hounds can and will make dry ground lion dogs.camrons are awesome.its all TRUELY , about putting your dogs in the woods. hunt them in the conditions you as a hunter want to hunt. a dog will learn by how many times you put that dog in those conditions and get better everytime.its 90 percent the owner of the dog that ruins the dog,lack of training on the owners part .hound hunting is a life style.i you WANT a dry ground lion dog then make him one. run fifty drags a year or maybe more depending on the dog in those conditions and you will make a dry ground dog.its about the hunter in what he puts into his dogs.which make dogs.and as far as reg breeds all are great.it is just what you as a hunter like blue, black ,red or white.and start them young. my two cents. dont just be a owner be a houndsman.we are a dieing breed- p.s put your time into your dogs.



Are you being serious? That is a bold statement or maybe i read it wrong! Are you saying all registered hounds will make dry ground lion dogs
if givin the opportunity or hunted enough or enough drags run.? I wish it was that easy, if it was i would have a yard full of super stars. Cause i sure enough put the time in. Unforunatly for me not all hounds make the cut.
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well i like to see you guys tell del camron his dogs arent dry ground dogs. what im saying is why is an older dog better than a young dog.from experance by hunting them.making dry ground lion dogs isnt rock sceince.and yes drags are a great start to making them,but to finish them put them in the woods.we learn everytime we go out,as well as are dogs.what im saying is TEACH them.yes there are some dogs that are cull and for no reason.registred dogs are a good choice to start in the right direction.for example i had a guy try and sale me a plott pup that look like it was part shitzoo..so becareful.so im say registred dogs are a good start.del camron dogs are a good choice if i was a betting man.
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tjc carpenter wrote:well i like to see you guys tell del camron his dogs arent dry ground dogs. what im saying is why is an older dog better than a young dog.from experance by hunting them.making dry ground lion dogs isnt rock sceince.and yes drags are a great start to making them,but to finish them put them in the woods.we learn everytime we go out,as well as are dogs.what im saying is TEACH them.yes there are some dogs that are cull and for no reason.registred dogs are a good choice to start in the right direction.for example i had a guy try and sale me a plott pup that look like it was part shitzoo..so becareful.so im say registred dogs are a good start.del camron dogs are a good choice if i was a betting man.


in my humble opinion, and i mean HUMBLE due to the fact i know nothing
a guy has his best chance of catching game with the same type hound other guys are consistantly catching the desired game in his area with.
it has NOTHING to do with a name. i'm willing to bet there are more "so-so" high dollar big name hounds than there are a less expensive grade dog. there are many lines of dogs gettin in done in the desert that arent high dollar big name dogs, but they are solid lines of dogs designed to do one thing, and one thing well. and most arent widely available to the public.

however, if you slip, say, cameron in front of bluetick the price is huge. i dont think del bred for dry ground dogs, as he is from montana. then again, i dont know for a fact because i dont know the man. it just makes no sense if were discussing regions. does that mean a cameron dog is a bad dog? no, does it mean they wont make a dry ground dog? no. all i'm saying is those dogs were not bred with that original purpose.
you just cannot put a whole breed or line of dog in one category. i think you'll learn on this forum, you have to be very clear on what you say you will be picked apart. as well as if you come here spouting meaningless and inaccurate verbage, you will be picked apart.
there is many years of lion hunting knowledge on this board, more so than you could find anywhere i'm sure.
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