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All Trigg pack?

Postby Andy » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:29 pm

I had a dog hauled to me by Red Wing last spring and I was talking with Chuck when he brought it and he told me about someone in West Virginia that he hauls for that ran nothing but registered Triggs on bear. I was wondering if anyone knew who that was or even if you are on this forum. Just looking to get a conversation going about these dogs, it was intriguing when Chuck told me about them, all he really knew was that they did catch lots of bear with these dogs, didn't really know any details like if they were hunted on other game, how they treed, how they rigged, how they trailed, etc. etc.
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Re: All Trigg pack?

Postby Medic4049 » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:47 pm

my grandfather had them while i was growing up. he hunted fox only with them. I dont ever remember them being used for anything else. course when they caught the fox didnt last long.
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Re: All Trigg pack?

Postby bigfootexp » Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:31 pm

Im no expert but I know a trigg is a type of running dog that is breed with a strong instinct to move a track, and little desire to tree, works well crossing into tree dogs not so sure how they do when they are pure
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Re: All Trigg pack?

Postby dwalton » Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:45 pm

Some hunters have bred the triggs to tree by picking ones that tree to ones that tree. Mostly gray fox hunters. Dewey
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Re: All Trigg pack?

Postby BARTAMENKO » Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:34 pm

Triggs are not suppose to tree like d says so if you have one that trees it is a cull and if you have another that is a cull you breed them and then [url]maybe[/url] you will get more culls hmm what a deal
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Re: All Trigg pack?

Postby Pops » Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:31 am

BARTAMENKO wrote:Triggs are not suppose to tree like d says so if you have one that trees it is a cull and if you have another that is a cull you breed them and then [url]maybe[/url] you will get more culls hmm what a deal


so by that logic ALL coonhounds are culls (since they are ALL bred from foxhounds that treed).

OTH the original name for the english (as registered w/ the UKC) was english FOX and coon hound.
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Re: All Trigg pack?

Postby Andy » Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:28 am

Yes that's a gross generalization to say that Triggs that tree are culls. If you're purposely choosing to cultivate an ability to tree that is by definition not culling.
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Re: All Trigg pack?

Postby BARTAMENKO » Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:13 pm

as a matter of fact yes the dogs that were bred down from fox hounds that would tree were culled from the main pack because they do not want dogs that will tree. you can call it any thing you want. now if you want to reinvent the wheel have at it. but there have been many breeders threw the years that knew what they were doing to make tree dogs. and we have been blessed to be able to hunt the dogs that they have been breeding for all them years. I know there are many of you out here that think you need to have running dog in your lines for one reason or another but if you stick with a line of hounds that were bred for the characteristics that you want you should not have to out cross to a line of dogs that are not tree dogs.
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Re: All Trigg pack?

Postby Lori Jacobs » Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:54 am

Amen to that Bill!! Don't mean to sound stupid or anything but is there such a thing as a registered Trigg?
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Re: All Trigg pack?

Postby Pops » Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:21 am

Lori Jacobs wrote:Amen to that Bill!! Don't mean to sound stupid or anything but is there such a thing as a registered Trigg?

yes

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if you go read from George Washington's personal journals, foxhounds that treed the native grey fox were highly prized AND BRED FROM until strong populations of red fox were established. then & ONLY THEN was there an effort to diverge into tree dogs & running dogs. further hounds were used on BOTH running game & tree game in europe for centuries before they were ever brought to north america. contrary to widely held beliefs, hounds were hunted pretty indiscriminately until the late 1600s and early 1700s. that is a pack might run a wolf yesterday, a lynx today & a stag tommorow.

although not originally true, the modern purpose of scenthounds is to catch game. by that standard the running hounds that don't tree and scatter looking for a new track when the game climbs are the culls.
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Re: All Trigg pack?

Postby possum » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:19 pm

The West Virginia hunter with the Triggs goes by timberline on this website.
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Re: All Trigg pack?

Postby timberline » Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:04 am

That guy chuck was telling you about is me J R Carte check out my site cartesbiggamehounds.com any more ? give me a yell.
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Re: All Trigg pack?

Postby TrophyHusband » Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:20 am

I own 2 registered Trigg pups. Think of them like a running Walkers. Both are strains of the American Foxhound from what I have read.

So if a culled running Walker is concidered a treeing Walker does that mean my Trigg pups that tree are treeing Triggs?
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Re: All Trigg pack?

Postby grouse » Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:56 pm

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Re: All Trigg pack?

Postby TrophyHusband » Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:32 am

Grouse, Thank you for the link to the online book!!!

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