help needed in east tennessee to stop catch dog ban

sasquatch · Post by **sasquatch** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:50 am

hello guys and gals i need your help im in east tennessee a month or so ago there was a lady killed in knoxville by a pit bull and guess what here comes the anti s there trying to get a ban in some of the east tn counties that we hunt a lot of boar in as we all know a bull dog is what you make of it it can be a killer or it can be an angel you can let them kill a hog of the day and sleep with your kid at night any one in east tn that can help go to your browser and type in johnson city tennessee bull dog ban please help with this there are a lot of hunters around me that are depending on us thx sasquatch

lowcountry · Post by **lowcountry** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:05 pm

plotts will catch and hold them hogs and if they get loose they wont go kill the neighbors kids. i love hunting with dogs but have been attacked by so many vicious bulldogs and rottweilers in my line of work i wont be sad to see them gone

easttenngator · Post by **easttenngator** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:20 am

and we wonder why the anti win ...LOWCOUNTRY the man ask for help of tenn people for tenn people........not a damn word about a plott...if you dont like them fine ...hope they ban your plotts for being ugly.

lowcountry · Post by **lowcountry** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:09 am

e.t. gator-hears you some more damn words-antis dont win shit by killer dogs not being at every house/but if they get an inch they will take a mile and they will not stop with catchdogs.guess ive been bit by them enough to hate them.that lady killed by dogs was probably not killed by hunting dog,was probably a meth lab guard dog.wish there was a way to keep dogs out of the peoples hands who dont need them . bet u need bulldogs to help u,if you hunt blueticks

Ankle Express · Post by **Ankle Express** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:13 pm

What about the TBHA? Are they involved? Should be presented to them and the NCBHA. TBHA should be all over it and you should try to contribute through them if you want to help yourself. NCBHA has a site and you can contact them w/ specific information they will fight for anybody anywhere where hunting dog rights are being compromised. SC has fought similar propositions and they still have catch dogs. She was probably trying to break in to support her habit! Don't know if that is the case but two wrongs don't equal a right there lowcountry. If your one of those that can only say a "PLOTT" would help anything/cure everything then you really don't know shit and obviously don't know jack about hog hunting. I can't stand that type of blind blanket statement. You want a picture of the mtn. where your great plotts were hunted and created? I live less than five miles from Plott Creek and the Plott family cemetary. This is serious Plott country and I've yet to see anything. Seems like everytime I try to see what them plotts will do whoever I find is rebuilding or swapping lines in the that breed. Always an excuse over here. I've heard that line for way to long.

I hunt Tenn. and have spoke with your bear hunters assoc. before. I'm not a member but probably should be. I'll work on that. Are they on-line? Ya'll have other viable hound clubs like Brushy Mtn., Poor Boys etc.... They have alot of members especially Brushy Mtn. and several members in local and state government. Ya'll have alot of coon clubs too that will most likely get involved too when/if this turns into a bill of some sort and that should be some more help.

TomJr · Post by **TomJr** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:28 pm

The dogs hunting pigs/wildboar are doing something constuctive. And the people breeding them for hunting are working on the dog aggresion. Its the dogs being left in back yards without even walks that are the problem. Any dog if left locked in a back yard or on a chain will go abit insane...

Then you have the idiots that teach thier dogs to be aggresive towards other dogs and people.

Its the owners that are the real problem not the dogs. Those type of people will just move on to another type of dog if they can't use a fighting type. And if you let them they will eventualy ban any dog over 10lbs...

Eric BEck · Post by **Eric BEck** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:09 pm

lowcountry wrote:plotts will catch and hold them hogs and if they get loose they wont go kill the neighbors kids. i love hunting with dogs but have been attacked by so many vicious bulldogs and rottweilers in my line of work i wont be sad to see them gone

U KNOW LOW COUNTRY I USE JUST PLOTT TO FOR CATCHING BUT THAT DOES NOT GIVE U NO RIGHT TELL A PERSON I HOPE THEY BAN THEM. THAT IS WHAT IS HURTING US WE DONT BAND TOGETHER LIKE WE NEED TO. I OWN A PIT BULL AS A PET A HOUSE DOG TO BE EXACT WE ALSO GOT A CAT THAT LIVES IN THE HOUSE TO AND THE CAT CAN BET THE CRAP OUT OF OUR PIT AND HE WONT DO NOTHING IT IS THE WAY THEY ARE RAISED.

sasquatch · Post by **sasquatch** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:27 pm

hey i wasnt goin to comment on his remarks but you got guys made me do oit i also hunt plots but i also have english and i use the bull dogs like many her ein tennessee do its obvious this guy has never saw what a good old fashioned tennessee mountain hog can do to the plot or any dog if you dont have a dog with jaw strength you better hope your not to attached to that dog people with an put look like that is why alot of hard core plott people are going to walkers and english in my area al you here is plott well i grew up with plott i still own them and love there grit but but i wouldnt give my redticks for all i could own so next time you go ahve an oput burst on the bull dogs you need to think before you speak most of us own a bull dog or know some one who does if that dog has been raised correctly you should be able to let your kids pulls its ears and hunt it they are just like a hound you have to teach them li ke you do a kid and if you think your so mighty plotts can do the job on these hogs come on to east tn well sell tickets

easttenngator · Post by **easttenngator** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:12 pm

So Low when will you ban guns??? Not one gun has jumped off into a person hand and pulled it own tigger.

I own one 90 pound Am bulldog...he works cows and pulls sleds ...do you know the BS I would endue trying to prove he is not a pit??? Of course not kill the breed not the type of person breeding the dog to be a killer or trained to be a killer.
Once again we see proof that 90% of people dont realize they have 2 ears and 1 mouth instead of 1 ear and 2 mouths.

I choose not to use a pit bull dog in my hunts, as all hunters should have the right to CHOOSE the breed that works best for them.

But thank Pres Bush cause you show that no child left behind might be working and teaching dumbasses to type

PS can you even run dogs in Co????????? or have you already lost your state?

lowcountry · Post by **lowcountry** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:29 pm

gator,if im such a dumbass and you are such a smart ass look at the rule book for colorado :i just moved here.i came from the blue ridge.i hunted tenn,nc,sc,ga for hogs. i dont care if yaw use st benards to hunt hogs its just a shame idiots insist on defending every pit bull on earth.i dont wont to see anything outlawed;i used to participate in hog catching events all the time,this has nothing to do with what i was saying about the mean ass dogs at every other house.and as forest gump said 'thats all i have to say about that'

Liz ODell · Post by **Liz ODell** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:48 pm

if any of you think 99% of animal control officers can tell the difference between a plott hound and a pit bull you are fooling yourselves. And guess who's going to be coming to your house to investigate that brindle colored dog...yep animal control. I hope you guys defeat this legislation, there are alot of bull breed and dog owner defense groups out there, contact them! A good place to start is the 'My Dog Votes' website.

Ankle Express · Post by **Ankle Express** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:48 pm

BINGO Liz!!!! I'm a little experienced and still have a hard time telling the difference even at close range. Re-read my post and i'm surprised the plott guys, even my plott friends, didn't pounce on me! I wasn't trying to lump you guys all together just the completely color blind ones of you. Fact is there's good in all of them even catch dogs. Low Country still isn't convincing me though. Hog bays and trials favor the hound and are like taking candy away from a baby for catch dogs. Hmmm maybe thats why "NO CATCH DOGS" are allowed in there anymore. The deal is you either use locate/decoy dogs like big dicked feists and then slip in close and drop the catch on a hog here idealy where he stands so you can then finish it, quickly. Or you run them all over hell and half of Georgia usually till they tire/bay and that doesn't do us much good then because of access. God forbid they catch three hours from the truck consistantly cause they won't last long here. More like suicide if not done right/set-up right here in these mtns. It takes almost a perfect balance of the three(locating,running and catching) to be remotely successful here and knowing how and when to use them. One dog or one breed just won't cover it.

Plott Proud · Post by **Plott Proud** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:58 pm

UPDATE: TN BSL To Be Held By Sponsor!
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[Friday, January 18, 2008]
The AKC Canine Legislation Department has spoken with Sen. Kilby’s staff who reported that the bill will not be moved forward with the existing breed-specific language. He and his staff are committed to drafting legislation on the dangerous dog issue that protects the public as well as responsible dog owners.

Senator Kilby thanks all those who have contacted his office to oppose the legislation. He very much appreciates the information that has been shared with him and the fact that our fanciers, enthusiasts, and concerned dog owners did so in a polite and respectful manner.

The Canine Legislation Department looks forward to working with Senator Kilby to develop reasonable, enforceable, non-discriminatory laws and to partnering with him on public education and outreach.

UPDATE: TN Breed Specific Legislation Assigned To Committee

[Friday, January 18, 2008]

Tennessee Senate Bill 2738 has been assigned to the Senate Judiciary Committee. Sponsored by Senator Tommy Kilby of Wartburg, this bill proposes to make it a crime to own a "pit bull dog" in the state of Tennessee. It is imperative that all Tennessee concerned dog owners voice their strong opposition to this wrongheaded legislation.

The American Kennel Club supports reasonable, enforceable, non-discriminatory laws to govern the ownership of dogs. We support laws that: establish a fair process by which specific dogs—not certain breeds—are identified as "dangerous" based on stated, measurable actions impose appropriate penalties on irresponsible owners; and establish a well-defined method for dealing with dogs proven to be dangerous. The American Kennel Club strongly opposes any legislation that determines a dog to be "dangerous" based on specific breeds or phenotypic classes of dogs.

SB 2738 proposes to:

Make it a crime for any person to knowingly own a "pit bull dog" in Tennessee.
Define "pit bull dog" as any American pit bull terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, American bulldog, or American Staffordshire Terrier, or any mixed breed dog that contains fifty percent of its lineage from those breeds.
Force any person found guilty of owning a "pit bull dog" to surrender custody and forfeit ownership of the dog to a humane society.
For a copy of this bill, click here.

WHAT YOU CAN DO:

It is imperative that Tennessee dog owners contact the members of the Senate Judiciary Committee and voice their strong opposition to SB 2738. Let them know that this discriminatory proposal is wrongheaded.

Senator Mae Beavers, Chair
308 War Memorial Bldg.
Nashville, TN 37243-2017
(615) 754-4632
sen.mae.beavers@legislature.state.tn.us

Senator Doug Jackson, Vice-Chair
10 Legislative Plaza
Nashville, TN 37243-0025
(615) 741-4499
(615) 741-8745 FAX
sen.doug.jackson@legislature.state.tn.us

Senator Jamie Woodson, Secretary
309 War Memorial Bldg.
Nashville, TN 37243-0206
(615) 741-1648
(615) 253-0270 FAX
sen.jamie.woodson@legislature.state.tn.us

Senator Diane Black
306 War Memorial Bldg.
Nashville, TN 37243-0218
(615) 741-1999
sen.diane.black@legislature.state.tn.us

Senator James F. Kyle, Jr.
9A Legislative Plaza
Nashville, TN 37243-0028
(615) 741-4167
(615) 253-0221 FAX
sen.jim.kyle@legislature.state.tn.us

Senator Beverly Marrero
11A Legislative Plaza
Nashville, TN 37243-0030
(615) 741-9128
sen.beverly.marrero@legislature.state.tn.us

Senator Mark Norris
303 War Memorial Bldg.
Nashville, TN 37243-0032
(615) 741-1967
(615) 253-0194 FAX
sen.mark.norris@legislature.state.tn.us

Senator Paul Stanley
302 War Memorial Bldg.
Nashville, TN 37243
(615) 741-3036
(615) 741-1005 FAX
sen.paul.stanley@legislature.state.tn.us

Senator John Shelton Wilder
13 Legislative Plaza
Nashville, TN 37243
(615) 741-2368
(615) 253-0211 FAX
sen.john.wilder@legislature.state.tn.us

For more information, please contact AKC’s Canine Legislation Department at (919) 816-3720, or e-mail doglaw@akc.org.

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cecil j. · Post by **cecil j.** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:22 am

sasquatch wrote:hello guys and gals i need your help im in east tennessee a month or so ago there was a lady killed in knoxville by a pit bull and guess what here comes the anti s there trying to get a ban in some of the east tn counties that we hunt a lot of boar in as we all know a bull dog is what you make of it it can be a killer or it can be an angel you can let them kill a hog of the day and sleep with your kid at night any one in east tn that can help go to your browser and type in johnson city tennessee bull dog ban please help with this there are a lot of hunters around me that are depending on us thx sasquatch

just contack pkc/ukc and they have a deot section for thid that can direct the legeslature an eastern tn. too the fact not all pitts are kept for use and by lesserunderstanding public citizens ! hunting pitts is like keeping a full game hunten hound and handlrd differently than a pet or watch yard dog by their owners who hunt em on hog .ink in the pkc prohound magzn,/the full cry mgzn/american cooner magzn is your best way too go ! Get Steve Fielder of Prohound and PKC on em he keeps up with your posts too pkc and he gets involved...regardless of you not being a pkc member..each dog right loss is a added nail in the coffen of hunten an keepen hound for hunten .

jack

adrich · Post by **adrich** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:14 am

You know we are always debating laws.We vote for the ones that suit us.I think there are enough of them.We don't need anymore That is our problem just think of the taxpayers money saved if we didn't need anymore lawmakers, politicians.I think if we reduce their workforce by 50% we could funnel that money to subsidizing our fuel costs to get to work to pay these guys more.Example my mother is against abortion so she votes that way.My point to her was what happens when the majority vote does not see you going to church as legal.Leave peoples rights alone.

help needed in east tennessee to stop catch dog ban

help needed in east tennessee to stop catch dog ban

thanks guys

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