Determing sex in the tree.

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amen to that . i have been thinking the same thing . seems like it takes 4 average dogs to do what one catdog is supposed to do . this one trails good but dont tree , this one trees good but dont trail good , this one is a good rig dog but....

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dont take me the wrong way I am not calling anyone a liar,just never heard of such a thing in my life. I know it is diferent up there. you guys barometric pressure is what makes that cat scent stand out. I got a friend that hunts there. told us he was gonna come down here and show us how he could catch every bobcat and lion with his little dog. and he was gonna rig them to boot. first time out she wouldnt even riga lion track when she was standing on top of it, but in short time she started figuring out this dry climate and was doing well on these lions....even caught a few bobbus. Now he is back up there and catching quite frequently. He took a buddies dog to that country that was a dry ground arizona style. that dog never rigged anything in her life, but she is rigging cats up in your neck of the woods. our worlds are 100% opposite. Just interesting is all.
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A local houndsman, oregon native spent a few years living & hunting in montana, told me those bobs didn/t run like these Or. coast cat.
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Cohoundsmen. Thank you for your post it was written very respectful , from the sound's of it scenting conditions are not good enough to experience this kind of race where you hunt. That dosent mean the dogs we keep are any more or less cat dogs than the one's you keep just different. Different in way's I cannot explain, I have never hunted out of this area. Thank you. John.
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so this guy, being me has know idea what he is talking about. :oops: my bad
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shoot4fur wrote:so none of you guys look for the black spot? if its four inches below the base of the tail, its a tom, just below its a female. not that hard. might have to get it to move a little but you will never be wrong again.


I am pretty sure that all these guys sex a cat in the tree that way. however bobs being smaller and they way they set in the tree, sometimes cant be done. its easy this way with lions but bobs, not always possible.
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I have not seen such a particular spot on a bob yet. Although jcs and warners tips have helped tremendous amount for me.
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shoot4fur wrote:so none of you guys look for the black spot? if its four inches below the base of the tail, its a tom, just below its a female. not that hard. might have to get it to move a little but you will never be wrong again.


I don't know that We'd be able to see that well here, We carry Bino's just to find the Cat.. Our Douglas firs can get north of 300 ft tall.. Sometimes it take a couple hours to find the cat They hide pretty good.

Here is a Photo of Two Bobcats in the same tree and we almost never seen the second cat.. We were at the tree for about 20 minutes before we noticed there was a second one in there, and this was one of the better photos we had of it. From the other side you couldn't see anything. These cats were only 30-40 feet up and 10 feet apart, they weren't very high. They were both smaller sized cats I would guess 12-14lbs, I don't know if they were male or female we left them, I'm guessing they were either young siblings, or it was a female and a young cat since they got in the same tree.

Would have liked to sex them just to know.

I'm going to try to look for the Spot, I knew about lions, But I've never really tried on the bobcat.. I'll try and pay attention.

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I thought that was crazy, my bad must have been tierd when I read the post, I am sorry to all.
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As JC said you can tell by the race, or some of us can that run a lot of cats. Once in a while you will get fooled. This time of year I can tell most of the time if they are cold trailing a tom. They travel faster and open more on the track and usually the cat walks more roads and ridge tops. For those that run lion it can sound more like a lion trail job. Dewey
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