This is a black eye for lion hunters.

[Mike Leonard]

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_20088868

[Big Horn Posse]

Not a black eye for lion hunters, a black eye for outfitters and guides! I am glad he got caught and hope he gets what he deserves! Makes me sick when people have no respect for wildlife and put $ infront of decency! That just pisses me off!

[kiwi]

Sad to see that sort of thing happening, What's wrong with having a hunt and letting the animal go?
I want to participate in a lion and bear hunt with hounds one day but i don't want to shoot them , just photograph them.
Watch the dogs work , see how you guys go about it ,
Will be interesting to see the outcome of this court case

[Mike Leonard]

anytime you see an Outfitter advertizing guaranteed success you best note that as a red flad. Nothing about true hunting guarantees success. Hard work, dedication and experience will help but still in the element of fair chase there are no sure deals.


Canned lion hunts use to be fairly common but in this day and age I assumed it was a thing of the past.Evidently not!

[FullCryHounds]

Yea, this really surprised me. I'd bet this will never go to trial. He'll plea it down and that will be all you hear about it. Hey Mike, it's against the law here in CO. to guarantee a hunt. I take care of that simply by not requiring any money till you shoot your cat. I have no end date on any of my hunts. 100% to date. But yea, it means we have to work for it. Some guys are just lazy.

[Mike Leonard]

Deano,

Your policy is a good one and right up front.

I have been doing some research recently on Billy Chester who was a famous lion and jaguar hunter who lived in the Santa Catalina mountains in Arizona which is now a State Park. Mr. Chester spent a great deal of time in old Mexico and was highly regarded. He sold his guide business to the Lee Brothers, and passed away in 1942. Mr. Chester frowned on the practice of canned lion hunts, but said there was a lot of that going on in the southwest back in those days. Most canned hunts were done in bare ground areas becasue snow would have left to visable a record of what was going on. many sportsmen came and got trophies and never had a clue that just minuted before they fired the killing shot the lion was turned loose out of a barrel cage.

[mulehound]

I posted this in the members only section when the case first broke. He is the first in one of the biggest cases the Federal fish and Wildlife has done. Utah fish and Game and Colorado were involved. He was charged first for a reason. I still need to keep my trap mostly shut for now. When you have seen the extent of what they were doing it makes you sick.
Darrel.

[kiwi]

Maybe it's time to stop selling lions and just sell the experience of being on a hound hunt
Half the time i've seen photos of guided hunters & their lion they've taken .
The dogs aren't even in the photo, They need to understand , it's about the hounds, always

[desertdog]

Ditto on the canned hunts. I have a book about the Lee brothers called "Nine Years in The Saddle", written by James Lee(a cousin). He said they had a house where they kept captured lions and turned em loose for the clients to chase. Lots a things went on in the old days.