Faults in Cat Hounds

[CRA]

What are some of the faults a hound needs to show you they possess that deems the hound as an automatic removal from your cat pack?

As a trainer of cat hounds you should know the faults that are curable and the ones that require automatic removal. So fire away, whats a fault or faults that gets you so fired up that you come to an end with that hound?

[Unreal_tk]

Any aggressive behavior, ill let it slide when they are real young and correct it but if I see it when they are a little older 6 months plus, I wont tolerate it.

EDIT: When I say aggressive behavior I mean like constant fighting with dogs, tree fighting, any aggression towards kids and most people(I like security barking around strangers), etc. I don't mean one growl and they are gone.

[South Texan]

CRA,
I guess my number one fault is a dog with no bottom. I can't stand to see a dog come out of a roaring race and stand in the road listening to the others run. Now I'm not talking young dog, I mean a dog that's had plenty of exposure. I can take the hunt out of them but I can't put it in them. Also some dogs that just never show any interest in the game your after, nothing ever gets them excited. These two faults I guess are very closely related. Robbie

[al baldwin]

Admit, I/ve grown soft hearted, but two things I will not tolerate & doubt can be corrected are people biters and or tree fighters. Fighting of any type can get them out of the pack fast. Robbie dogs that quit a track in a hot pursuit, good discussion for later. Owned one of those once, just blew my mind how impressive he was at times & then act total different at times. Only dog I ever hunted with like him. Thanks Al Baldwin

[CRA]

Mr Robbie,

You have probably pin pointed one of my biggest faults that I hate to see in a hound. I absolutely hate a lazy hunting dog. There is nothing that bothers me more than a hound standing in the road while others are working a cat. Hounds that lack determination to work through and end a tough track is something you cant fix as a trainer. Its in the nature of the hound and its breeding.

I would say my next faults that I wont tolerate is fighting, false treeing, and backtracking from the tree.

[Dads dogboy]

CRA you and Mr.Robbie hit the Nail squarely on the head as to Dad's thinking! He says "that he can take it out of one but has not found the filled spout to be able to pour the GO in"!

Young Hounds have a limited amount of time for the "Light to come on". They may only have it flickering, but not trying to GO will buy a bullet pretty quick! It has not happened in many years, so that may have been bred out.

Now there is a difference between NOT GOING and being inmature and slow to start. Knowing the difference is important.

Aggressivness, Fighting, Face Barking....well Tri-tronics stops that pretty quick when used properly!

[twist]

No treeing ability! Also false treeing that can not be cured. Andy

[sourdough]

Some of the traits mentioned above, are traits that cannot and should not be tolerated by any hound hunter; regardless of what they hunt.

Andy mentioned treeing ability, false treeing and lack thereof. This is a topic of discussion, all in its self.

What style of hound is needed to catch a high percentage of bobcats turned out on? We hear from many different cat hunters, from north to south and east to west. Some prefer running dogs other prefer trail hounds and then there are those that like a blend of both.

I feel the most important quality for producing top notch cat hounds is not just based on traits; because that is something we have control over in our own breeding program. I understand the issues with climate and terrain as well as snow versus bare ground, but when it comes down to the issue of bobcat hounds or any other type of animal we choose to hunt, it’s about sticking to species.

If you put up with face barking and tree domination in your pack you more than likely will never be invited again, with those that don’t. I have had hounds be possessive of my truck, my person, my kennel, as well as their own personal space. From a liability stand point it has not been very pleasant, but most of the hounds that I have had this way, were created by those that think themselves to be dog whisperers and approach them boldly and not heed their warning and violation of space, training them not to trust people.

If I was to pick a trait that I see to be the most undesirable to the hunter it would be a quitter and this is universal to all species; bear, lion, bobcat, raccoon, and even human LOL.


sourdough