$$$ Money $$$$

[ferjr]

It's hard to see yours with that swastika tattoo in the middle of your forehead .

Actualy it isnt on the middle of my forehead.

Frank Reinhardt

[Grzyadms4x4]

Come on now guys there is a difference between saying (beep) israel and saying that you want all jews dead. IF those that want to support Israel want to help her through donating directly to them then that is fine, but we should not be forced, as a society, through donations of "foreign aid" paid via our taxes(though actually it is paid for by China, Japan and others buying our debt).

Name calling won't solve anything, that is part of the problem. Don't let them win. We are all united and we can discuss constructive ways to fix our problems or we can continue to demonize anyone who doesn't agree with us. I know name calling is easier and it takes time to actually research something, but which one is going to solve problems?

[ferjr]

Come on now guys there is a difference between saying (beep) israel and saying that you want all jews dead. IF those that want to support Israel want to help her through donating directly to them then that is fine, but we should not be forced, as a society, through donations of "foreign aid" paid via our taxes(though actually it is paid for by China, Japan and others buying our debt).

Name calling won't solve anything, that is part of the problem. Don't let them win. We are all united and we can discuss constructive ways to fix our problems or we can continue to demonize anyone who doesn't agree with us. I know name calling is easier and it takes time to actually research something, but which one is going to solve problems?

+1 Well stated!

[Big N' Blue]

Frank, you are an idiot. Griz ,a lot of what you say I can relate to but you need to show some flexibility and come to terms with what we have to work with at this time in history.
On another subject, Frank have you ever generated enough revenue for the companies you have worked for to justify your salary? Or are you just depending on a union to keep you employed?

[ferjr]

Actually I work at a taxidermy shop and dont work for a union even though I totally support them. My family has been Union Pipeline Welders for many generations. Back to your question, yes I make the company I work for alot of money. Do you?





Frank Reinhardt

[Big N' Blue]

Yep. Always had to! Blessed to work in a right to work state! Where we can get fired if we are not doing our job and paying our way! Glad you pay your way, Kinda pleasantly surprised by some of your post! Keep it up! And make sure you pay your fair share!!

[Balsam]

This article is from 'Patriots for America'

A Letter Written By Corinne and Hal Prewitt Who Purchased Ann and Mitt Romney's Home In Utah...

Posted by Harry Riley on September 17, 2012 at 8:05pm in General Discussion
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From Corinne and Hal Prewitt:
Regardless of who any of us are supporting in the presidential election, we all are better served by knowing the truth as this does influence who we support. It was not approved by Mitt Romney or his campaign.
As you may know we own Mitt Romney's former home. Corinne and I have written a non-political-issue story that you very likely have not heard. We did this because many Democratic, Republican and Independent voters strongly recommended and found it valuable. Private details, how he acted out of public view and when not running for office. We are messengers, delivering facts. Not initially his supporters nor anti-Obama. Mitt Romney is very different from the man that many Americans have been led to believe.
Ours is a factual story that provides a rare glimpse and insight into the real Mitt Romney. Does he really relate to the average American? As President, would he impose his beliefs on others? Is he really Christian?
When you buy a home and its contents from someone you really learn a lot about their true character, values and beliefs. And rarely does anyone have the opportunity to learn how a politician acts out of the public's view and when they are not running for office. Well, this actually happened. When? Only a few years ago, in spring of 2009 when we bought Mitt Romney's Park City, Utah home. His family lived in this home for about ten years. Because our deal included most of the contents, we gained a unique and unusual perspective of him and his family of which most Americans are completely unaware. What we experienced was not what we expected. Not the stereotypical actions of a millionaire and more importantly not the image most Americans have of Mitt Romney.
When most of us buy a home, the real estate agent or seller hands over the keys at closing and then as buyers, we are on our own. Not this time. We met Mitt Romney by himself at the house. He spent as much time as we needed showing us around, answering our questions and explaining how to use and service the home's equipment. And when he was done, he gave us his direct contact information should we have problems.
To move, if we can afford the cost, most of us would hire movers with a team of workers. To save money, many of us are the do-it-our-selves types. Which did Mitt Romney do? Like many of us, on his own he rented a six-wheel truck and moved himself. He drove to the local Home Depot and purchased wood to build whatever he needed for the transport. Mitt moved his family's clothes, his family's photos, his family's mementos, his grandchildren's toys. With the help of a friend and family, they loaded the truck. Then, after answering all our questions Mitt Romney said his goodbyes, climbed into the truck and began the long drive to his new home by himself.
The Romney Park City home, which they designed and built, and its contents had much to say. Having raised a family of our own, we saw that the home was built with a focus on his family. No swimming pool, tennis court or movie theater. There are no maid, butler or nanny quarters. Clearly Ann and Mitt raised their kids. No gold faucets, no fancy silverware. The kitchen was simple and typical of an average three bedroom home, very much like those in which we were raised. We were struck by the discovery that most of the art, furniture and all the curtains were made in America and many by local craftsmen. Most of the linens were of good quality but not what is found at very high end, exclusive stores. The master bedroom pillows had tags from the average American’s most popular discount store.
In the most honored place in the master bedroom hung a painting of Jesus Christ. Most Americans know little about Mormonism and we didn't either. Mitt Romney clearly had a home of faith and family just like the rest of us.
One of the most interesting questions many have asked is, "As president will he impose his beliefs on others?" Many claim that a President Romney would take away rights and impose his beliefs on all Americans. The Romney home contents gave us insight into this question. One of the strongest Mormon beliefs is the prohibition against drinking alcohol. We were surprised to find a small supply which we were told was available for guests, not for the family. Mitt Romney had a respect for his guest's wishes. By not imposing his beliefs on others even within his own home, then clearly a President Romney would not take away rights and impose his beliefs on all Americans. Those making such accusations should stop. The facts do not support their claims.
It is amazing what can be learned about someone from observing the smallest details. In the Romney's family mud room, where the boots and outdoor clothing were stored, we found the Governor's ski gloves. One of his son's apologized for his dad's lack of concern about his appearance when Mitt went skiing because the gloves would surely be noticed. They were worn out and had holes in the fingers. Mitt had gone to the garage tool box and wrapped them with duct tape. Thrifty? Yes, and the repair provided an immediate practical solution rather than traveling to the store to buy a new pair. His indifference to appearance demonstrated his confidence, true character and priorities. Good qualities, but easily misunderstood because they are quite different from those displayed by many famous people and certainly politicians, who highly protect and prize their appearance.
As you have read, our story is not about a wealthy man's nice home or its beautiful contents. It is about the story they tell and how our experiences with him showed the real Mitt Romney. How his family truly lived is a real indication of their values and beliefs. There is more we could tell, but hope we have provided enough facts to answer some key questions on many voters' minds. Mitt Romney is very different from the man that many of us have been led to believe. Clearly he is more like most Americans than not. We learned many things about Mitt Romney that contradicted what we have been told. He is not aloof or out of touch. He is a man of faith, family and American values. A guy who is well-grounded. It is not beneath him to roll up his shirt-sleeves and get the job done. The fact that he has allowed this to be kept so very private is a true testament to his character and shows how different he is from many other politicians.
Who are we and why are we speaking out? Growing up in Florida and Pennsylvania, we knew little to nothing of Utah, Mitt Romney, his family or values, beliefs, religion and his capabilities. We were amazed by what we learned. We want nothing more than for our fellow citizens to know what we know. We are not part of any campaign, not Mormon nor religious activists. We have voted for Democrats and Republicans and were not Governor Romney supporters. Hal is a farmer, race car driver and retired after creating a number of successful businesses. Corinne is a retired government employee. We do not come from wealthy families. Our parents worked average jobs. Our fathers were a mailman and an engineer. Our mothers were a nurse and a housewife. We struggled, worked hard and are grateful for having been rewarded over the years. We have never given up on achieving the American dream. But the story we tell is not about us.
As Americans, we depend on our press to provide us with factual and unbiased information. We hear politicians sometimes misspeak and others take their statements out of context. Many times it is hard to tell what is fact and what is fiction. Over the past few months, we have noticed how different from reality some of the public perceptions and media presentations of Governor Romney are. Unfortunately, some political opponents spread false information and misconceptions. This is wrong.
This injustice and the value of our story has led us to speak up and provide these facts. No one can say with absolute certainty what kinds of decisions a president will make while still a candidate for that office. To predict, we only have access to their words, history and if available the most useful facts of all, how they acted out of public view and when they are not running for office. This is why our story is so important, valuable and must be told. No doubt some will want to dismiss our story, argue that it is not newsworthy nor relevant and possibly subject us to an undesired spot light. However, we hope the American people are given the opportunity to hear the truth, especially when the facts directly contradict what many people think to be true.
Corinne & Hal Prewitt

[Big N' Blue]

Thanks for passing along John!!

[Grzyadms4x4]

That still doesn’t make him a good candidate for President. He lies, cheats, steals, flip-flops, speaks without thinking, and doesn’t care for the little man.

Damn, sounds like Obama too!

[Big N' Blue]

Griz, you really need to get over Ron Paul.

[Big N' Blue]

Griz, there is not a lot that you are saying that I do not agree with! Just that it will have to be a slow generational thing to get it changed, if it ever can and it will have to be done on a local level.

[slowandeasy]

Griz,

I know that there are many in the electorate that are clueless. And I don't know if there is much help to correct that. I too agree with a most of what you say, but we only have what we have to choose from. This is the cold hard reality. And I certainly hope that you don't waste your vote, as there will be plenty of idiots that do that. I truly pray that someday somebody will come along that is truly for the people. But that day has not come yet.

Before I get off of here, I would like to ask you one question. If you choose to piss your vote away. Do you feel that you have done justice to hunters and sportsmen of all walks of life. These are just the things I believe are of interest to most that participate on this form. By no means am I insinuating that they are the most important things for the country as a whole. There isn't enough time for me to type all of that bull shit. If you can answer yes to that question, have at it. But if you can truly look at the ass hole that's pulling the strings for the country now and know that he will do even more damage. I hope that you will do the right thing. Because if nothing else it will buy us for years in hopes that the right person will come along.

Take care, Willy

[Grzyadms4x4]

The difference between the two of you is striking.

BnB, I agree these things must start at the local level and that is what is starting to happen. I can't fathom the pain and fear in people's minds and hearts as this country was in the throws of the great depression and to have their government promise them peace and prosperity through the new social and banking programs must have sounded great and it's just what the pro central bankers had been hoping for for decades. Absolute control.

It is human nature that the ten commandments are to protect us from. Yet we do not see the violation of or we rationalize away their importance. It is human nature to want the things that we have now that will lead us to tyranny, e.g. all encompassing social welfare programs, large armies to protect us from fear of the unknown, anger at someone who challenges our sense of normal or right, jealousy and greed of the more well to do neighbour. These are things that are part of our old, old brain from when we were clubbing broads and dragging them into our cave, yet they still affect us to this day.

Emotions is how the electorate is being played. The problem BnB is that we do not have very more generations to go before it is to late.

Debt is what % of GDP.
Government spending is what of GDP?
It will not last. No empire ever has and no fiat currency ever has. The time is now.

That is why Willy you can't toss that heap of BS on me! You can help an electorate that is clueless. It's, "educate and inform the masses because they are our only hope."

There are some flat out truths out there and they show even simple minded people like me that we have been and are being duped into control.

I for one will not let you say that any vote for someone but a member of the Big 2 is a waisted vote. That is bull. There have been several candidates that HAVE come along over the past 20 years, but there is collusion between the media and the Big 2 political parties so no other candidates can come to their "party" and debate on an even playing field.

You are mistaken if you believe that BO is what is the problem. He is only the executive. We have allowed the congress to play us for years. Again, IT's rinse, wash and repeat. Regardless of position, Look at what they say, look at how they vote and look at the results and ask yourself if doing the same thing over and over again is working?

I will vote for whomever I choose, but you can't lay any future problems at my feet as I refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils, because eventually one them will bring us HELL!

[Grzyadms4x4]

Here's something we can all agree on, probably. Right now in the senate there is a bill that passed the house with over 2/3 majority vote is is Senate Bill 202, Audit the Federal Reserve.

The previous Audit was a severely watered down version that Ron Paul proposed back a few years ago. Though watered down it still exposed the over 16 TRILLION dollars that our asses were guaranteeing to FOREIGN banks and companies.

This new proposal will dig a little deeper and as mentioned has over 2/3 majority vote in the house yet Harry Reid won't bring it to the floor in the senate. Right now it has 32 sponsors in the senate.

Call you reps and Harry Reid and ask them to support the s202 bill and remind Harry Reid that he supported, on video, a full audit back in 1995. Demand that he bring it to the floor.

Let's see what else these counter fitters are up to.

Here is Harry Reid's contact info.
Harry Reid has a special office for his position as majority leader.

Please call this line:

Tel: (202) 224-2158

His Chief of Staff is David Krone:
(202) 224-2158
david_krone@reid.senate.gov

Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy William "Bill" Dauster
(202) 224-2158

Counsel/Policy Advisor Ayesha Khanna (202) 224-2158
ayesha_khanna@reid.senate.gov


Here is the capitol switchboard for your state senators.
(202)224-3121


Here is a link to the full bill for your perusal.
http://www.thomas.gov/

[houndsandterriers]

BLOOD MOON: Utah mormons build bunkers and stockpile food amid earthquake fears in 10 days
SHOPS in Salt Lake City are reportedly selling out of dried food, emergency supplies and equipment as residents fear the impending Blood Moon event will cause catastrophic earthquakes across US state Utah.
Local religious publications are reporting there is widespread panic in the highly religious area following months of online scaremongering that the world will end or face major devastation at the end of this month.
Christiantoday.com reported: "Many Mormons have expressed fears that a major earthquake will strike Utah on the night of the blood moon.
"Others reportedly anticipate a military invasion, technological disruptions and general chaos and hysteria."
It quoted a local source as saying: "Mormons have traditionally been asked by the church to keep emergency supplies on hand, which come in handy in emergencies, but this run on supplies is because some people truly believe September 28 is the end."
The website added: "Last week, reports emerged of Mormons stockpiling food ahead of the Blood Moon."
Peggy Fletcher Stack of The Salt Lake Tribune reported: "Mixing a brew of biblical prophecies, the Hebrew calendar, a volatile economy, world politics, and astronomical occurrences, hordes of Utahns have become convinced calamitous events are imminent — maybe by month’s end — and are taking every precaution.
“They are called preppers and are buying up food-storage kits, flashlights, blankets and tents.
"Some are even bracing to leave their homes, if need be.”
We get a shipment every day.”
Members of the Mormon Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints have feared the "end of days" since last year after author Julie Rowe published a series of books outlining doomsday visions she had during a 2004 near-death experience.
However, church elders moved to install calm, saying the mum-of-three's claims were not in keeping with Mormon teachings.
Ms Rowe has given no firm date but has talked of the Blood Moon event during public speeches.
Nasa has called for people to dismiss the doommongers who claim the apocalypse will follow the last of four 'Blood Moons' which happen on September 28, and an asteroid strike before the second coming of Christ.
Blood Moons are rare lunar events, when a solar eclipse gives a full moon a reddish tinge. In a tetrad of Blood Moons there are also six full moons in between.
But this has not stopped an online panic setting in after claims were made over several months.
Nasa has insisted there is no substantial space rock scheduled to come anywhere near Earth for at least 100 years.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/606 ... n-TEN-days