BILL INTRODUCED TO BAN PURSUIT OF BEAR AND BOBCAT IN CA

[bigboarstopper]

I'd rather not be the one to put this idea in everyone's head but it seems logical considering how this last year has gone. So here goes, I doubt the Dfg will impliment this hound tag system. It seem more logical to me that the legislators will be presenting another bill this upcoming year using the same template as the bear and bobcat bill to ban the use of dogs for all mammal hunting. Why wouldn't they? HSUS has said in the past that they will do this piece by piece. They have a roadmap that has worked very easily for bear and bobcat. Why not simply replace "bear and bobcat" to "all mammals" and shove the same bill through again?? In fact it would be much easier this time as there is only a fraction of houndsman left from the last bill.

[Ktarvin]

i dont doubt that at all bigboar, DOES CHC OR ANY OTHER OF OUR ADVOCATES HAVE A PLAN FOR THE NEXT STEP....ie GET IT TIED UP IN COURT HIRE A LAWYER TO START THE BALL ROLLING TO GET IT TIED U[P IN COURT. JOSH TOLD US THAT THEY HAVE MORE THAN 300,000 IN THE BANK. HIRE SOME PROPLE TO GET OUR BEAR HUNTING BACK. I COULD GIVE TWO SHITS BOUT GETTIN GPS BACK. JUST WANNA KNOW WHATS THE NEXT STEP. WITH ALL THAT MONEY WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO THROW IT AT SOMEONE TO HELP US OUT. CAUSE IF BIGBOARSTOPPER IS RIGHT AND I THIMNK HE IS ANINT GONNA BE NO RESON FOR CHC AND ALL THE MONEY IN THE BANK. SPEND IT
GOOD HUNTIN FOR NOW
KERRY

[pchop]

Everyone keeps wanting an answer to this I emailed josh about this with no answer I am beginning to think chc has thrown in the towl. I hope not, but the lack of answers is not good.

[outlaw13]

I want to beleive they have a plan but what i have heard they are kinda keeping it top secret until after the first of the year when the law actually comes into effect. I don't believe they threw in the towel but i am just as lost as anyone on the whole thing. I have no idea what is going on. I guess i am just hoping they have a good poker hand and they are not going to show before the time comes that they have to. I do wish i knew more though.

[Peter Meyer]

Tommorrow there is a Fish and Game Commission meeting in L.A. Last one. Next year they will be Fish and "Wildlife" Commission meetings. Anyways I digress. On the agenda is Public Comment for Big Game Regulations in 2013. I am asking for legal baiting. In states with bear seasons it is usually dogs or bait. We got no dogs gimme some bait. I am sure that this will spur some discourse on the current situation. So email the commission tomorrow asking for baiting to be legal for the 2013 season. I think the commission is meeting in Feb in Sacramento. I won't miss this one. I hope that 1221 violates CEQA and will be overturned but more knowledgeable sources on the board said I am incorrect. So who knows? -Pete
"Audentes fortuna juvat" - "Fortune favors the bold"

[outlaw13]

here is one for you to think about pete. When they get that wolf listed as an endangered species in california it is only going to be a matter of time before everything is going to come to a screetching halt in the CA. Every timber sale will be evaluated if it will have an impact on the wolf. every food source for the wolf Deer, Elk, and whatever else that bastard dog wants to eat will be protected from hunting as to not impact the wolf's food source. That way an animal that was once native to the state can make a comeback and be where it belongs.

I CAN'T WAIT FOR A BUNCH OF TREE HUGGERS TO BE EATEN BY BEARS AND WOLFS IN THE NEAR FUTURE. HOPEFULLY THERE ARE NO HOUNDSMEN TO HELP OUT UNTIL EVERYONE GETS ALL OF THERE HUNTING RIGHTS BACK.

[Peter Meyer]

Let's reintroduce grizzlies, they can eat the wolf.

[meagain]

I agree we should reintroduce grizzlies in the original habitat they were found! Sacramento. Specifically the governors office.

[Peter Meyer]

If you fly the state flag of California at your home or workplace I suggest you fly it upside down. California is in need of some serious help and the irony of flying the "Bear" flag signaling distress is priceless. -Pete

[meagain]

Pete,
Judging by what occurred at the polls yesterday.... I better fly two or three flags upside down! The " Great State of Clownifornia", Is in real trouble I think.

[ALEX]

When will be know if F&G has adopted the hound tag program? January 1st?

[bowtech36]

probably after everyone buys their tags and license for next year. Knowing our garbage state

[outlaw13]

i believe in two weeks in lassen county fish and game is going to have a meeting about how they are going to enforce things. I plan on attending and when i find out more ill be sure to share.

[fallriverwalker1]

hey foik;s i'm not as worried about a hound tag ;as i am about what i was told today by a friend 'who happens to be a taxidermist ' he deals with the fish cop's o n a daily basis .he was talking to the warden about this new law and how it was just a bunch of crap ' the warden said he didnt care that in 2 yrs ; they wont run anything with dog;s in this state and that was just fine with him ; he didnt know the wardens name ' but he says he has a new one come in his shop ; weekly ; still wondering what the state org is thinking about' fish and wild life is our friends ha ha sounds like it to me

[mark miller]

yep we will know are enemies soon in a bad economy or soon to be a full blown depression or worse yet a dictatorship. You will learn to feed your family by any means necessary that will mean the use of dogs when ammo is hard to come by just read up on the last depression we went through. I will take it one step farther the anti hunting demarcates have a super majority in CA that means that it will be nothing to get no public hunting passed or no fur bears with dogs passed or varmints there will be no obstacles like sb 1221 had. We as voters must learn what they are using against us and turn the tables or we will wake up one day as couch potatoes or outlaws. Not trying to be a downer just my too cents. I do believe in what Jim said he has seen the changes in the last 40 years or more and its down right depressing if you don't think so just do what you did as a kid walk to your favorite hunting spot with your dog and gun see how fare you make it before you get pulled over or handcuffed THANKS FOR YOUR TIME