TURNING MY COON PACK

coondawg1972 · Post by **coondawg1972** » Thu May 08, 2008 2:50 pm

I WANT TO RUN BOBCATS WITH MY HOUND PACK I HAVE BEEN ON THREE THIS WEEK JUST PUT THEM OUT ON THE TRACK AND SENT THEM MY PROBLEM IS THE CAT WON'T STAY TREED AT NIGHT HE BAILS OUT AND THE RACE IS ON AGIAN. DO I NEED TO RUN CAT IN THE DAY TIME OR CAN YOU GET THEM TO STAY TREED AT NIGHT. I KNOW ITS A ROOKIE QUESTION COMING FROM A HOUNDSMAN OF OVER 17 YEARS BUT I SURE LIKE RUNNING THEM THINGS

Dan Edwards · Post by **Dan Edwards** » Thu May 08, 2008 3:21 pm

Been told to run them right at about an hour before daylight. I believe it could work. I personally have always believed that running the right type and blend of dog would be of a great benefit also. Such as, having a small percentage of cur like squirrel dog blood in there because they are so friggin attentive.

coondawg1972 · Post by **coondawg1972** » Thu May 08, 2008 3:30 pm

THANKS I WILL GIVE IT A TRY SAT MORN

TomJr · Post by **TomJr** » Thu May 08, 2008 7:27 pm

A good cat dog will be holding the cat in the tree with its eyes and attitude at the base of the tree. The best ones I have had would sit back a bit from the tree and just stare at the cat if it shifted the dog would move abit as if ready to catch the cat in midair, never taking its eyes off the cat. A cat seeing that dog ready and alert to any move it makes is not as willing to risk a bail out. Now at night it would be harder for the cat and dogs to be able to see each other so might be why your getting the bail outs. Another reason is that the bobcat is going to hear you coming and so will your dogs, who might shift abit and cat sees dog look towards you and bails while its attention split.

Dan Edwards · Post by **Dan Edwards** » Thu May 08, 2008 7:31 pm

I got a buddy that trees cats and fox all the dang time at night. He literally scoops them up like they aint a challenge. You "hound" folks may not like this but his dogs got a lot of "cur" blood in them. They are alert and attentive and I am tellin yall there is something to this.

TomJr · Post by **TomJr** » Thu May 08, 2008 8:14 pm

I agree on the more attentive dogs being better cat dogs. And none of my dogs have ever been pure hounds... best ones I am not even sure they had any hound in them. People have droped lots of pups and adult dogs in our canyon over the years and we keep the ones we like and get rid of the others.

We can't hunt bobcats or foxes at night any more. Not that my dogs can read regs... they have treed both and held them till morning for me. I can't help it if the critter wants to get caught badly enough to climb over or under a 6 foot high fence now can I? Back in the old days before everything got so built up and they started regulating everything I just allowed my dogs to run free and they would tree a bobcat or fox in the middle of the night and hold it over till morning. Go outside see no dogs, listen for abit then walk to them and see what they had. We did have a fence around the orchard back then but it was only ment to keep deer out and the dogs could come and go easy. Never lost a dog, though once in a while they did take a day to get back. Would not dare to do that now days though... just too damn crowded in the woods with all the bunny huggers moving in, not to mention all the border crossers and border-patrol chasing them

I miss the old days when we would see maybe one person a month come up our road.

cecil j. · Post by **cecil j.** » Fri May 09, 2008 8:16 pm

TomJr wrote:I agree on the more attentive dogs being better cat dogs. And none of my dogs have ever been pure hounds... best ones I am not even sure they had any hound in them. People have droped lots of pups and adult dogs in our canyon over the years and we keep the ones we like and get rid of the others.

We can't hunt bobcats or foxes at night any more. Not that my dogs can read regs... they have treed both and held them till morning for me. I can't help it if the critter wants to get caught badly enough to climb over or under a 6 foot high fence now can I? Back in the old days before everything got so built up and they started regulating everything I just allowed my dogs to run free and they would tree a bobcat or fox in the middle of the night and hold it over till morning. Go outside see no dogs, listen for abit then walk to them and see what they had. We did have a fence around the orchard back then but it was only ment to keep deer out and the dogs could come and go easy. Never lost a dog, though once i

n a while they did take a day to get back. Would not dare to do that now

days though... just too damn crowded in the woods with all the bunny huggers moving in, not to mention all the border crossers and border-patrol chasing them I miss the old days when we would see maybe one person a month come up our road.

Tomjr. I pretty much agree cept a full hound can learn how too work the tree like a curr dog and for cat he must ! Also, I think he needs too no tune his pack of 5 coon dogs but rather trim it dfown too but his best 2 coon dogs and leave the other 3 home for coon hunting only. Learn his best 2 dogs too run and bark in place andtoo honor each other and how too threadthe needle, an cut-n-slash on the front of the track ! I think they will do alot better in 90 days of a steady diet of cat ! And he just might have a cat dog ? the other good thing is putting them 2 dogs on nothen but cat will bring their heads up and make em quicker on track too.

coondawg1972 · Post by **coondawg1972** » Sat May 10, 2008 8:33 am

guys i really thank you for all the advice i put two down last night an a cat track and kinda encouraged them they took to it i let them work out till it heat up. then i dumped the 4 young dogs on the race about five min. before the cat went to tree. and when i got there the freash dogs were treeout around the tree in a circle and the cat stayed in the tree. only thing is i left him i'm not really sure how much cat i have to run so i didn't want to kill him he might be my only one for all i know and sure did enjoy running that thing. the race was about 2and a half hours long. would have liked to have give it them but i petted them up anyway

david · Post by **david** » Sat May 10, 2008 4:53 pm

keep us posted Paul. Sounds like you might have some high priced bobcat dogs there. You did the right thing. Some of the best cat/fox dogs I ever witnessed get about two fox a year shot out to them. The Young family own a small ranch, and they value the fox and bobcat way too much to kill them. Some dogs might need it, yours dont. Letting them know you love it when they do that will be plenty.

Let us know how it goes.

TomJr · Post by **TomJr** » Sat May 10, 2008 8:14 pm

Good job! Now that they figured it out I bet you start catching alot more

TURNING MY COON PACK

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