Bill Green's breeding advisor

[pegleg]

I have a few of Whitney's works. And some that concern them or at least mention them. There's a book on the development of the leading strains of Doberman pincer in a country down on the south side. It looks at his work and compares a strain developed from his methods to some strains that others developed using in many cases the same dogs but with different methods. It was interesting from a breeding stand point. The traits they focused on had some cross over to hounds. However its more a big picture comparison. The gist of the whole thing boils down to having the genetics in a controllable and understood package then testing stringently for your purposes. The tighter the inbreeding from a superior animal or a few the quicker and with less animals the results are obtained. But when creating something not present in a family/breed or single animal the more breedings and selection needed to reach the same level. Which was important to them due to the small number of quality specimens and the correlation with the original breed development. They felt given the number of top dogs produced by each breeder a couple methods had equal merit. The actual selection of progressive generational dams and sires surely had a large impact on quality.

[pegleg]

David. Yes from a american hunting dog development standpoint I thought it was pretty interesting. It had a orangish cover with gold inlayed wording and a dog and natural/ brush background and a cabin. But was so faded I'm not sure what the original color was. And given how poorly the gold was visible I'm sure orange wasn't it. I think for some reason it was printed in philly. But why I can't say. And my searches with all these details in mind has led nowhere . if anyone has any ideas I would really appreciate hearing them. I've spent a lot of time scrolling through the library of congress . just not enough I guess.

[david]

Not all books are registered with the library of congress. Good luck. Hope you can get one. If it's anything like bobcat hunting it's going to feel powerful good if you do.

[Grzyadms4x4]

Maybe I should start a new topic but does anyone know if the canine DNA companies that will test the DNA of your dog have any of the GS or other French scenthounds in their database? I saw that they have Blue tick, but that wouldn't be pure/straight French DNA, would it?

I am curious as to how that might change some of the DNA test results that some hounds might get, eg Walkers, etc. I recently have gotten very interested in the performance of the GS and some of the old breeders like the Lee's, Green, Goswicks, etc., the blood/crosses they used and how it made better trailing southwest hounds. I was wondering if some of you might be able to help. This topic, to me, is one of the more interesting to follow on BGH.

[pegleg]

I talked to the lady at the national canine semen storage place and she put me in touch with their vet. He said that DNA testing hasn't mapped all the dog breeds thoroughly enough to determine what breed its from originally. He did say that on the other hand any dog could be tested against any other for relationship. Similar to a human paternity test.
So if stud or dam X is suspected to be a parent grand parent or great grand parent the DNA is advanced enough for that.

[DanBar Ranch]

Whitney was very interested in hounds. He bred a LOT of them. Lots of crosses. One I remember in particular was bull terrier and hound. He kept a brother and sister if I remember correctly. If u find his old book on breeding you'll see it. But get an original edition, I think they left out pics in later versions