lion dogs vs bear dogs

[Ike]

[blackpaws]

D/S-Hunter wrote:

I have owned dogs that could rig 2 day old tracks in the right conditions

i didn't mean you Ike!!

[Ike]

[D/S-hunter]

I never hunted where you live paws,so I cant say i could rig a two day old track in that country,what iam saying is that i have hear.the only reason i know that they are 2 day old tracks is because hitting water holes and food source's i wipe out all tracks i can find and return to the same spots,a day or so latter that way i know what tracks are what.I do not have a dog now that can rig that cold.but i used to have a b&t dog that would rig that cold and he would drive me nutts on the rig just for that reason.I never liked to mess around whith a older bear track when there are plenty of good tracks to be ran down the road.

[Nolte]

If you know anything about lion hunting, then you know most of the dirt lions that are caught are caught because the hunter got on the right end of the track, as a tom might be ten or twenty miles away by daylight from where he started his travels.

This is the basic premise of any type of dog hunt, you get on the right end of the track and you'll have success. I've been on numerous bobcat tracks in the snow that were TOUGH going. Drop at daylight on old crappy crusted snow and walk till dark, so you can walk back to the truck without a hint of jumping. With a bit of help you can manage the track, but you ain't going to catch it. Unless you get going on it the next day or cut it again in the general area. I'd be the first to admit that if I had a real good fast cold trailer, that we coverered twice the distance in the same amount of time.

Piss drags ?? Never seen one used. My only pup training is playing around with them to see if they'll fire. Maybe let them wander over to the neighbors and chase the barn cat around. Beyond that the only training is getting them in on chases to see if they've got it. It's usually an easier transition to the real deal if you've got an idea they'll bark at a critter and look up a tree. If they wander around aimlessly, it's a waste of time because they'll be more worried about playing grab ass than running the critter. You're better off leaving those dogs that aren't getting it home, and concentrating on the ones that are maturing faster. If you've only got one pup it doesn't really matter, so you might as well let them tag along if they'll keep up. It seems that most of the pups I've seen (firing or not), just can't keep up till they get that drive.


OTHERS IN THREAD NOT DIRECTED TOWARDS IKE, JUST GENERAL COMMENTS

2 Day old tracks around here are a Pipe Dream. It might happen once in a great while when all the stars are lined up, but I wouldn't bet anything on it. Especially on bear, where the humidity/dew or frost in the fall messes with tracks. I think you'd have a better chance at working a 2-day old cat track than bear. Doesn't mean you'd catch it but you could play around with it for awhile and maybe get lucky.

[Ike]

[Nolte]

Edited my post, that section wasn't directed towards you. I thought that was a given since it was already talked about further up in the thread.

[briarpatch]

"DAMMIT" Ike, LISTEN to what I told you in the P.M. Be a more discerning reader and a lot less paranoid.

briarpatch

[Dan Edwards]

He cant help but be paranoid. When you are a bullshitter, you get that way.

[Ike]

[liontracker]

" Piss on it and walk away" !!!!!

[Ike]

That's good advice liontracker even if you had to use my own words to remind me.............

[Dan Edwards]

Only things ever rode me was fine ass women.