what kind of equine do you use

nmplott · Post by **nmplott** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:40 pm

out west we love horses and my family here we love the quarter horse. what do you guys use?

Jim Balash · Post by **Jim Balash** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:16 pm

Mules are the best I've gotten them to go places that good horses wouldn't and use em for riding or packing. They also don't seem to spook as easy either. But this is just my opinion.
Jim

Melanie Hampton · Post by **Melanie Hampton** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:28 pm

We have a couple.. I have a bomb proof half arab/quarter horse gelding that was born on my place and I raised.. He turned 10 this year. Unflappable trail horse, and pack horse. We have a breeding stock paint mare, who is a nice trial horse and pack horse... We have a mule.. biggest little pain in the ass I have ever put a halter on.. She sure can pack, but I hate her LOL.. We have a 3 year old Kiger Mustang, who hasn't had anything done with her yet and I keep threatening to sell if Nick doesn't break her.. Not my horse and I don't want to mess with her

Nora Cook · Post by **Nora Cook** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:21 pm

Foundatioin Quarter Horse all the way.

Trail
Reining
Cutting
working cow
ropping

They will do it all. I love mine. I have had a few other breeds but love the FQH

Josh Kunde · Post by **Josh Kunde** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:14 am

lets see this season I have to choose from 14 different horses to take along I dont know which ones. The olny one for sure that is copmeing is Bunny, my dads mule she is out of a quarter horse mare and a Jack name South Side Hot Shot at one pont he was the best but I havent heard alot about him now.

Missouri Boy · Post by **Missouri Boy** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:22 am

I have rode mules all of my life. Can through hogs still squealing over each side of my saddle horn and one accross there rump. Not saying their the best they just work for me! Got buddy that has a big bay stud foundation Quarter horse. Seen that stud save Vince from getting cut by a bad hog, when Vince got to the catch he jumped off the bay stud. The boar broke loose, came strait at Vince, knocked him down the bay stud didn't care for it. He ended the boars career with both front feet!

Renegade Hog and Bobcat Dogs
Salem , Missouri
Jason Raulston

nmplott · Post by **nmplott** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:30 am

that is exactly what my question was meant to be...what works best for you? I grew up on a ranch so I know horses pretty well and one thing that I know is that what works for me may not work for you. I am new to the use of hounds to hunt, and so far I tried redbones and black mouth curs and not disrespect those breeds but they didn't work for me. So I tried plotts got some from pups and are training them now... These dogs are now some of my family members and will get rid of one for anything. Horses are the same way, I love my quarterhorses but what I use them for may not be what you use a horse for.

Nora Cook · Post by **Nora Cook** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:32 pm

nmplott,

You are very true, I did some X country when I was younger on some arab's and I tell you, I dont think a QH would do that great at that. A little to smart to go down some of that stuff. WHen I used to pack up in the Eagle Cap wilderness We used Mules and I thought that they were just about the greatest thing alive on some of those trails.

live4hounds · Post by **live4hounds** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:52 am

i grew up on a cattle ranch and QH an mule are the only way to go mule for the packing and the QH for worken cattle and roping but over all i would say a good QH is hard to bet

nmplott · Post by **nmplott** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:41 am

I agree a quarter horse is a versatile horse. We use ours for cattle, pleasure and hunting. I am thinking about buying my son another QH

Mike Leonard · Post by **Mike Leonard** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:01 pm

Well I have ridden just about every type you can imagine, and I will say just about all of them are better than walking but there has been a few exceptions.

My two worst days I ever spent lion hunting were caused by two different mules hundreds of miles apart.The first was a big jenny mule called Sweet Pea who I later found out her real name was Madame X.The other was a big app John mule and when I came in from that hunt I looked like I had been put thru a salad shooter.This is not a general condemnation for mules because I also have ridden some very good ones. In fact one of the best hunting mounts I ever rode, was a little black mule out of Oklahoma. He was a climbing, crawling, packing little dude with a good handle on him and a running walk that was fast and smooth as silk. If I could find another one like that I would likely ride him a bunch.

Those two mule incident both happened when I was invited on hunting trips, and furnished a mount when I got there. I could bore you with details but the facts were evident after the first hour I was hunting with these folks. They didn't know much about riding, lion hunting, mule training or anything else that I was interested in they just like to talk about it.

I hear a lot of folks say I ride mules cuz they will go places a horse can't . Be very careful saying that becasue that just goes to show you have never really been in the rough stuff with good horses. A lot of people thinking riding them in the mountains makes them a good lion hunting mount. Maybe , maybe not. It is about the same difference as herding cattle on the plains to a corral, or crashing over brush thru thickets and off mountain sides trying to rope a bovine critter that is wild as an elk. It takes a whole different set of standards.

Mules have the advantage of highbred sense. What I mean bu that is that all the selective breeding that has been done to many of todays horses for a certain event or task is not influencing the mule. The mule is a one time shot, can't reproduce he has terminal genes. But where a fired up horse can be driven to exaustion, ridden off a place they can't get back up , and into dangerous situation where a horse would go trusting in it's rider the mule will stop. It's not that he is stubborn he is just cautious about getting himself in a bind. To me this is a real plus for mules especially where novice riders are concerned. One guy asked one of the mule guides at the top of the North rim of the Grand Canyon one time. I guess you put the tourists on mules because the canyon is just to steep for a horse to go up and down. He said no it's not that I ride my horse up and down that trail all the time. We use mules becasue we condition them to follow and where to put there feet before we ever put ourselves in a position of liability, and we know the mule will do what he has become comfortable with and won't do anything wrong even if the tourist tries to guide him this way or that. If he tries too hard the mule just stops and the wrangler can get the situation straight before it makes a mess.

So I like good mules,I beleive we have some fellow hunters on this and other hound forums that have some truely great ones. But like Bluegirl you are mostly likely to see that old cowboy lion hunter from northern New Mexico setting on a foundation bred quarter horse with a bunch of flop eared potlickers running around him. LOL!

Nora Cook · Post by **Nora Cook** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:12 pm

That was great Mike. Hope you and your horses are doing great.

I got a new Foundation Baby. Born April 25th. He is a hand full but what fun he has brought to my life.

Take Care

Mike Leonard · Post by **Mike Leonard** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:14 pm

Horses doing fine Nora, had a heck of a good ride today. I did a couple mile warm up, and then came back to the arena to try out some new bosals and hackamore rigs I had built up. I have a freind who is a great trainer and an excellent rawhide man and he braided me up three new ones that I have been shaping all different diameters. I put some really nice fancy mecates ( McCartys) on them and got them adjusted. I wanted to show a friend a few things about these. The memory that horses have is truely amazing. I put this little red horse who has been straight up in the bridle for three years in a pencil sized bosalita. I got on double him twice on each side . I then took him down the arena and just a touch and he would drop on the release just like the bit and slide. Run backwards and 360 each way like a top. I really like to go back to it from time to time to tune them a bit. I sure don't do it enough but then again like I said horses have a great memory.

NOTHING LIKE BLOOD SIR, IN HOSSES, DOGS, AND MEN.(Thackery)

I would add, in women also. CHEERS!

Big John · Post by **Big John** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:44 pm

I think it is the way they are raised. I had some sorry mules and horses over the years. Reg or non reg stuff, horses or mules, All of them someone else has trained/broke.The best I've had has been the ones I raise up hunting and riding in the rough Az/NM deserts and mountains. Most are not regestared some were. Happy Trails!
John

Josh Kunde · Post by **Josh Kunde** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:09 am

I personally dont think regestry has anything to do with it. My great uncle Willy lives down in Luning Nevada (right outside Hawthorne) he raise some of the nicest good minded mountain horses I have ever seen, and none of them are registered. They are mostly mustang but they have alot of QH and alil TB in them too. but I have never seen an animal go up steep country like those horses do. I prefer mules because my dad has one he raised like a dog and will do anything you say and I think she is the one that made me fall in love with them. but she is just outa a mutt QH cross as well. I am not trying to put down registered horses our lil Romeo has alot of Impresive blood (but didtn pick up that bad trait) and he is probly one of the nicest horses I have ever laid eyes on and is real nice minded and such as well. So what I am trying to say is Names on the papers dont mean anything my uncle records all the breedings he makes so he has better chances of making the right cross but nowa days people are doing the same thing they do with dogs, looking at papers before actual phisycal, and mental traits that would make a nice cross.

Josh Kunde

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what kind of equine do you use

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