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I have some hounds like that.you can tell when their on a cat they get worked up.I dumped one out to them here it was a cross of some sort.
I had run a bob the nite before about two miles up the road it ended up
coming out in front of the truck we caught the dogs up as they came out
because it was 1ocock in the morning everyone had to work the next
day.
I had run a bob the nite before about two miles up the road it ended up
coming out in front of the truck we caught the dogs up as they came out
because it was 1ocock in the morning everyone had to work the next
day.
some dogs have such a distinctive body language for bobcat. You can read em like a book, and it is easy to trash break these dogs and trash break your whole pack because you know exactly when their body language is saying "this is not a bobcat, but I kinda like it". the dogs I have seen it in have a similarity to the type body language of a bird dog getting "birdy". I dont know how to say it except it is "tighter" than the same dog winding up on a coyote or coon or any other animal. I love a dog with what I call the "cat tail". When you see it, you will know what I mean.
I dont know why, but you will also see dogs putting their nose up to little bits of brush or even a single twig when it is a bobcat. I dont see them do this on coyote, deer, coon or other animal so much. If someone can tell me why this is, I am all ears.
I love how you bait people Dan Edwards, but I aint biting today. too old and tired to take on the status quo today.
I dont know why, but you will also see dogs putting their nose up to little bits of brush or even a single twig when it is a bobcat. I dont see them do this on coyote, deer, coon or other animal so much. If someone can tell me why this is, I am all ears.
I love how you bait people Dan Edwards, but I aint biting today. too old and tired to take on the status quo today.
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how do you run bobcats then if ya dont hunt em like lions?
i dont know? never hunted lions-
an oldtimer buddy of mine always told me. you cant hunt bobcat like bear--
i always said yes u can , u just cant catch many -
i like to hunt them like bear , but only catch one in a blue moon -
a famous quote from a local legend cat hunter was---
i dont need dogs to hunt bobcat ,but they make it easier -
he walked tracks up -- put a fresh dog up a hot track ,always stayed very close to dogs -
he killed a lot of cats the dogs only about half treed- if he wasnt close . wouldnt have got them.
he knew their route to get to the rocks and got tm before they got to rocks -
wore out a lot of snowshoes -
killed a lot of cats that a guy following hounds with truck or snowmobile wouldnt have got -
he also knew where he could walk in and run a cat when everybody else was cruising roads looking for a track
i dont know? never hunted lions-
an oldtimer buddy of mine always told me. you cant hunt bobcat like bear--
i always said yes u can , u just cant catch many -
i like to hunt them like bear , but only catch one in a blue moon -
a famous quote from a local legend cat hunter was---
i dont need dogs to hunt bobcat ,but they make it easier -
he walked tracks up -- put a fresh dog up a hot track ,always stayed very close to dogs -
he killed a lot of cats the dogs only about half treed- if he wasnt close . wouldnt have got them.
he knew their route to get to the rocks and got tm before they got to rocks -
wore out a lot of snowshoes -
killed a lot of cats that a guy following hounds with truck or snowmobile wouldnt have got -
he also knew where he could walk in and run a cat when everybody else was cruising roads looking for a track
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pete richardson wrote:
he walked tracks up -- put a fresh dog up a hot track ,always stayed very close to dogs -
he killed a lot of cats the dogs only about half treed- if he wasnt close . wouldnt have got them.
Pete, I took out some of your stuff but I felt I need to quote you for some reason here and ask some questions then. You say he put up a dog on a hot track and was always very close to dogs. My question is then why not hunt a very close hunting dogs that has excetional tracks speed or a dog that might not even really be running a track but maybe is tryin to cut the cat off before the cat can get to wherever it is he wants to go. I aint talkin about a big ole sloppy laboring ass dog that lopes and swoops around. I am talkin about a snappy little rocket that leaps and bounds, looking all the time and listening every time he makes the world go quiet when his feet leave the ground. I am talkin about a dog that is running a track and knows he has it lined out right now and is heading in the somewhat correct direction so he leaps in the air both looking and yes actually listening for a twig to break 200 yards off and then lands and runs as fast as he can in that direction for 100 yards and leaps again making sure he is still right yet still the whole time winding, looking, and listening. You ever seen a dog like that Pete?
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David,
Cats do mark bushes by backing up to them and spraying abit. Could be why you are seeing the dogs sniff higher up...
Dan,
My youngest pup (he will be 2 in a few months) started doing that jump and listen thing but my catch percentage has fallen off alot since he started doing it. I think he is running too fast and wasting alot of time and energy trying to get to the game before the other dogs. Sorta wish he would go back to his old ways...
Cats do mark bushes by backing up to them and spraying abit. Could be why you are seeing the dogs sniff higher up...
Dan,
My youngest pup (he will be 2 in a few months) started doing that jump and listen thing but my catch percentage has fallen off alot since he started doing it. I think he is running too fast and wasting alot of time and energy trying to get to the game before the other dogs. Sorta wish he would go back to his old ways...
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Tom Jr,
One thing about these dogs that are willing to leave the track in order to catch something, it is a genetic trait, but it is also a learned skill. They will look like idiots as youngsters sometimes because they have a tool they have not learned how to use yet. Unfortunately they often get culled because of it.
I have a buddy that has his dog of a lifetime because someone else could not understand why she would not stay with the other dogs and hang in there and work the track with them. She was one mans cull and another mans "beyond my wildest dreams" dog.
They are risk takers, and sometimes when you gamble you loose. But as they get better at honing skills and intuitions they will Make you smile more often than make you swear.
There is plenty of game caught without a dog like this, and I never knew it was possible most of my life, but it sure puts a whole new level of delight into hunting when you get to see the progress of a dog that can pull out of the drug addict dazed focus on the cocain (scent), and focus on locating and catching that critter using all six senses.
Look at me. Dang you Dan Edwards. you suck
One thing about these dogs that are willing to leave the track in order to catch something, it is a genetic trait, but it is also a learned skill. They will look like idiots as youngsters sometimes because they have a tool they have not learned how to use yet. Unfortunately they often get culled because of it.
I have a buddy that has his dog of a lifetime because someone else could not understand why she would not stay with the other dogs and hang in there and work the track with them. She was one mans cull and another mans "beyond my wildest dreams" dog.
They are risk takers, and sometimes when you gamble you loose. But as they get better at honing skills and intuitions they will Make you smile more often than make you swear.
There is plenty of game caught without a dog like this, and I never knew it was possible most of my life, but it sure puts a whole new level of delight into hunting when you get to see the progress of a dog that can pull out of the drug addict dazed focus on the cocain (scent), and focus on locating and catching that critter using all six senses.
Look at me. Dang you Dan Edwards. you suck
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I don't have any idea what his breeding is other than he is half treeing walker and half black lab. I could likly find out the breeding but its sorta a moot point as he is not pure hound and is nutured anyhow.
I do know both parents are hunting dogs, the mother hunts coon and the father is a gun dog for ducks. So yea he would be a cull to most people but he is doing ok here. He does great on bears but the last 10 fox races he only caught 2. Last year his catch rate was around 70%. I only hunt within walking distance of my house and the bobcat population is down but we did run atlest one in the last week, I saw it cross the road. Some of those fox runs might have been bobcats, too hard to tell for sure on this hard ground. I think he has it in him to catch bobcats just needs to put it together maybe
Today he caught a couati... and got bit on his cheek. He should be ok though but sure was alot of blood.
I do know both parents are hunting dogs, the mother hunts coon and the father is a gun dog for ducks. So yea he would be a cull to most people but he is doing ok here. He does great on bears but the last 10 fox races he only caught 2. Last year his catch rate was around 70%. I only hunt within walking distance of my house and the bobcat population is down but we did run atlest one in the last week, I saw it cross the road. Some of those fox runs might have been bobcats, too hard to tell for sure on this hard ground. I think he has it in him to catch bobcats just needs to put it together maybe
Today he caught a couati... and got bit on his cheek. He should be ok though but sure was alot of blood.
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You ever seen a dog like that Pete?
not exactly -
had a mtn cur / walker cross- farm dog- hunted squirrel , rabbits , coon- when not hunting ,hunted woodchucks and rats on his own and helped with cows-
have seen enuff of that in some crossbred dogs to have some idea what you are talking about-
--- personally i like hounds best -
im practical though -- lol - i could run that cat catchiing machine with my hound once in awhile so he finds out what a cat looks like -
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Ike
Nothing like a pack of dogs that will hit the chain on a cat and roar like they'd just seen the devil.......
I had a buddy who called on a bobcat the other morning claiming he was rigging down his hunting camp and a bobcat had been visiting that site. He was convinced that if I drove out there the big cat would surely be sitting there waiting for me, and that he was so fat he probably wouldn't even run........LOL! That was around 10:00 AM on a clear sunny day with no snow in sight.
Well, ol' Ike has always been a sucker for those kinda calls and I loaded up four hounds and drove that way. It was nearly three hours later when I arrived and guess what??? Yea, no cat in camp and the dogs (when thrown down) would try and trail where the bober had been but none of them opened on track......it was around 2:00 PM.
I drove up the country and rigged another canyon that I hadn't been in in several years and then back to his camp--still no Great Big Bober standing there all fat and ready to climb so I headed toward town--it must have been nearly 4:00 PM........
There was another campsite not far from the first and kinda a half circle and next to the main road where others had killed deer and elk and probably thrown out deer legs and whatever and those four hounds went off like a damn bear was standing beside the road.......so I stopped and dropped my seven year old Choco to the ground to strike.
Ol' Choco ran over to a piece of deer hide and starting opening and sniffing around and two crows flew off, so I put Griz, Kody and Rui Li down behind him. I think that bober was standing there in the PJs watching all this not fifty yards away cause the other three hit the ground and ran past Choco and they all four hit the PJs on the run in full cry after cat.......
I walked over to the hide and tracked a nice, fresh, bobcat track in the powdery dirt along with the dog tracks off into the trees and could hear those hounds going down the track like they had their nose right up his butt............
Three or four miles later I cut them off and pulled them, and figured that cat had just ran out from under them in the dirt. I don't usually play with those bobcats too much but when a guy gets a strike from the rig like that in the afternoon he just has to throw down..........
Not many years ago I'd played that hand out and ran til dark and sleep in the truck if need be, but these days with dark coming on I'd rather have my hounds back safely and headed for town when the sun drops below the horizon.........
ike
I had a buddy who called on a bobcat the other morning claiming he was rigging down his hunting camp and a bobcat had been visiting that site. He was convinced that if I drove out there the big cat would surely be sitting there waiting for me, and that he was so fat he probably wouldn't even run........LOL! That was around 10:00 AM on a clear sunny day with no snow in sight.
Well, ol' Ike has always been a sucker for those kinda calls and I loaded up four hounds and drove that way. It was nearly three hours later when I arrived and guess what??? Yea, no cat in camp and the dogs (when thrown down) would try and trail where the bober had been but none of them opened on track......it was around 2:00 PM.
I drove up the country and rigged another canyon that I hadn't been in in several years and then back to his camp--still no Great Big Bober standing there all fat and ready to climb so I headed toward town--it must have been nearly 4:00 PM........
There was another campsite not far from the first and kinda a half circle and next to the main road where others had killed deer and elk and probably thrown out deer legs and whatever and those four hounds went off like a damn bear was standing beside the road.......so I stopped and dropped my seven year old Choco to the ground to strike.
Ol' Choco ran over to a piece of deer hide and starting opening and sniffing around and two crows flew off, so I put Griz, Kody and Rui Li down behind him. I think that bober was standing there in the PJs watching all this not fifty yards away cause the other three hit the ground and ran past Choco and they all four hit the PJs on the run in full cry after cat.......
I walked over to the hide and tracked a nice, fresh, bobcat track in the powdery dirt along with the dog tracks off into the trees and could hear those hounds going down the track like they had their nose right up his butt............
Three or four miles later I cut them off and pulled them, and figured that cat had just ran out from under them in the dirt. I don't usually play with those bobcats too much but when a guy gets a strike from the rig like that in the afternoon he just has to throw down..........
Not many years ago I'd played that hand out and ran til dark and sleep in the truck if need be, but these days with dark coming on I'd rather have my hounds back safely and headed for town when the sun drops below the horizon.........
ike