Gotta dog deal for ya

[treed]

Had a guy call me today and asked me something about a doug . He sounded like he was from India or from Iraq.I told him that no Doug lived here..He started talking and he said something about my web page. I asked him if he was looking for a dog and he said ...Yes yes...I thought HoundDawg was drunk again and playing phone games... I talked with the guy somemore and asked him what he hunted. He said Beh...I said what ...He said Beh...I said " you mean bear " ???He said yes yes...Now I was thinking Hmmmmm...who is messing with me...The guy sounded too smart to be Spanky....Couldn't be Pacojack because he would have called collect...

I kept talking to this yahoo trying to figure out what he was saying..I finally got out that he lived in Minnesota ..I noticed that the area code he was calling from was 612...The guy told me that he was looking for a made bear and lion dog...I started chuckling because I would like to have a made bear and lion dog too... ....He told me that he preferred a Walker and only wanted to spend 1500 to 1700 for the dog...I told him that he shouldnt have any problem finding a made dog for that price, but I sure didnt have one.... I did tell him that I knew of a guy in Utah by the handle of Lightning Ridge that had a slew of made Walker lion and bear dogs....I told the guy to give him a call...

The guy told me that he would think it over and he would call me back. He told me that he really would like to buy a dog from me ... I told him that I really wished I had the dog for him, but it wasn't to be. The guy thanked me and hung up......

Now if anyone of you guys and gals have a made Walker lion and bear dog for 1500 0r 1700 dollars. Get ahold of me and ill give you this guys number ...Im sure you make this guys Millenium.....
Better yet.If you have any made Lion and Bear dog for that price ILL BUY IT......Have a good one ....Coop

[Emily]

A couple of years ago, I pulled up at a park where I take my dogs for swimming lessons. We get out of the Jeep and my new pup opens on a horse trailer and is treeing his heart out. I am mortified, thinking I've got a trashy pup who is treeing a horse. Worse, I can't see anything through the trailer windows and I'm thinking he is slick treeing on horse scent.
However, it takes me a minute or two to get the stuff I need out of the Jeep and I let him bay up the trailer for maybe three minutes. By the time I get there, some hysterical woman with a British accent is yelling at me, saying my dog is distressing her beh. My hound is making a racket, but I have no idea what she is saying and ask her six times in a row without catching on.
Well, it turned out some advertising agency is there filming a clothing ad showing hikers and bears. The horse trailer has three "trained" bears in it and the lady is the animal trainer! They are there at the town swimming/fishing hole. No captive wildlife permit. Picnickers and fishermen from town all around. The film crew has a huge catering trailer and has taken over the beach.
I was relieved that I don't have a trashy pup, but tell the lady she can't film her bears without a DEC officer present. Meanwhile, she's threatening to call the police. Well, I live here and know the cops, who aren't going to want city slickers bringing bears into a park that has enough wild bears anyway, and there's no cell phone service there anyway, but I know the DEC officer likes to end his day there and will probably be by in about half an hour.
Meanwhile, I've leashed my dog and led him off to the lake and the woman has leashed one of her bears---a grizzly cub!--and is leading IT around on a leash. I've already told her that if she lets that bear come upwind of us, I'm going to turn my hound loose and send the bear up a tree. My four month old pup clearly knows what a bear is and wants to tree it.
Eventually, the DEC officer shows up and runs the advertising people out of the park and gives me a lecture about not threatening to chase a tame bear on a leash without a bear permit and the minimum of two hounds with bear licenses. : ) He has a big grin on his face, and all the other locals at the park are expressing support for me and asking about my pup's breeding.

Anyone who refers to a bear as a "beh" is now immediately suspect!

[Melanie Hampton]

Now if anyone of you guys and gals have a made Walker lion and bear dog for 1500 0r 1700 dollars. Get ahold of me and ill give you this guys number ...Im sure you make this guys Millenium.....
Better yet.If you have any made Lion and Bear dog for that price ILL BUY IT......Have a good one ....Coop

ROFLMAO!! I get emails like this all the time... "You got a finished catadog for sale?" my number one thought is why would I sell a finished cat dog? LOL.. Or bear dog.. And they only want to spend under a $1000.00 for it.. Or they grand dreams of buying a pup and making it into the best dog in the whole wide world with NO previous experience "It just looks like fun" (not that some people can't do it) I guess most people just don't have a clue... Most replies that I get from giving someone an estimate on the cost that it will be for a finished dog is "Oh.... really.... that much?"

[LIGHTNING RIDGE]

Coop I got a hole pack of made dogs I'll sell you there made to eat, $h!t,sleep and chase deer I'll let em go for 900.00 ea. you interested.

[Kyle]

Most replies that I get from giving someone an estimate on the cost that it will be for a finished dog is "Oh.... really.... that much?"

So how much is it for that finished cat dog?
Kyle

[Spanky]

Kyle that depends on you and what you want to pay and what area the hound is from. You go to the west coast and you'll pay upwards of $2500-$3000 sometimes even more same goes for the southwest. Also depends on which cat your talking about too, bobcat or lion. I believe a bobcat hound is gonna bring a bit more money.

I think Montana, Wyoming and Idaho you'll pay less then the coastal area. I believe it has to do with the local economy more then anything else and what value the owner puts on his hounds. More money on the coast.

Heck I would love to get $3000 for a hound but in this area your lucky to get $150 for a pup, one reason we do not sell local. Heck I know one fella that is selling males for $500 and females for $600. He lives in iowa

[Jeep Hound]

My first dog used to like to chase ditch tigers. Never became a finished cat dog though.
Guess they didn't really interest us. Was kinda fun, couldn't get alot of money for the skins though.

[Ike]

Coop,

I had a guy from West Virginia telephone me last fall looking for a five to seven year old hound that would rig straight on bear, then come off the box and take his hounds to the tree. Personally, I have two ten year olds, an eight year old, a six year old, a five year old, two three year olds and two yearlings. So what he was asking for was my best middle aged hound which would be my red Choco dog........

I told him I really wasn't interested in selling any of my hounds and certainly not the best lion and bear rig dog I have, cause you just can't ever get what you put into a hound like that. How much is a hound like that worth I asked him, to which he answered $4000 to $8000 bucks if he'll do it all.......

I thought about his offer a moment then asked him why he didn't buy locally and then realized it must be one of those pride issues..........

This guy was polite and really seemed like a nice guy but when I told him I wasn't interested in selling any hounds he was pretty much done talking..........

I sold a two year old half redbone out of my LionHeart and Ike dogs to a local guide five years ago for $900 bucks. She was hard off the rig, solid on track, and would sit down and chop her guts out on a tree and never look away. I had a boar come out of a tree one day when she was fourteen months old and she nailed it right along with the older dogs. That guide has told half a dozen people that he has never owned a better lion dog than her and he's been guiding for the past twenty-five years.

The deal was made as a friend knowing that I'd one day need his Forest Service permit to kill a bear--never used his permit and should have never sold that hound! I did go breed my blue Ryan dog to her and took two males out of the litter, my Griz and Kody dogs who are the two three year olds. That dog has been wasted, as she is primarily hunted on lions and all that good bear stuff she learned hunting with my other hounds has just been locked away in a distant memory and lost.......

Ole Hounddawg once made a post that claimed it takes about $7500 bucks to make a good hound and when you're done they aren't worth but $2500 dollars..............

ike

[Mike Leonard]

That's a good post Ike and I agree. Old Houndawg is kinds right too. Man the money you put into it, and the time, you in reality probably have more than that but when somebody wants to buy they think $2500. is a big price. I tell most of these guys hire Jim Shockey, or Van Johnson or what ever it's a lot cheaper than getting hounds and going thru all the expense and time to maybe get lucky and have a few work out and catch game. I been at this now nearly 40 years and I am finding out more all the time just how dumb I am. But hell I am like a calf in clover when them dogs blow up off the rig, or strike a trail in front of my horse . I guess Momma said you would meet guys like this....LOL!

[Ike]

Thanks Mike, but what would we be doing if we hadn't jumped into this sport? I got along just fine jumping in with a few hound guys for years before I ever dummy up'd and let one of them give me a pup. A word of advice, if you're one of those perfectionist type people who get all the way into something then stay away from hounds............

ike

[pete richardson]

i had a pretty good hound once-- he wasnt for sale-- guy kept trying to buy him anyway -he offered me more than i would have asked if i wanted to sell-- i told him no but he just wouldnt quit --

finally i told him just go down to the dealer and buy me a brand new 4wd pickup - and i will trade--


he sputtered awhile then asked me WHY ?

told him i was pretty sure i could wear it out before i could replace that hound--


he gave up after that -


dog died a year later

then i told him -- "i wished you had tried harder to buy that dog "

[Melanie Hampton]

Most replies that I get from giving someone an estimate on the cost that it will be for a finished dog is "Oh.... really.... that much?"

So how much is it for that finished cat dog?
Kyle

Kyle... I did probably a really stupid thing.. I turned down $4000.00 for my male. He wasn't even our lead dog at the time, but he can rig, road, start and finish by himself or with company.. And he was just what the guy was looking for.. And needed pretty bad... After I closed my mouth and the buzzing in my ears stopped.. I told him no...I have at least that wrapped up in vet bills But that isn't the reason.... I always said he will wearing die wearing my nameplate.. and he will...

[Ike]

Now that was funny Pete!

A few years back I had a guy ask to buy one of my top hounds and then offered me $3000. bucks. I told him no......

Then I ran into a Government Trapper in the Post Office who was at the time running hounds for the state and selling what dogs he could. So I told the trapper about the offer on that hound to which he replied, "do you have other dogs to hunt and that will catch a lion?"

"Sure I do," was my reply.

"Well, I'd sell that dog in a heartbeat cause she could get run over, shot, stolen, or just die tomorrow and then you will have missed out on that $3000. bucks," he remarked.

I just laughed and walked away knowing he'd been had..............cause I already knew what he'd say as a dog jokey........

ike