saltlick kennels

[bad moon]

i have fell in love with these big majestic dogs and am trying to find a top line of dogs.. i can clearly see that saltlick is the big name in this breed, however it seems to me a kennel with that many dogs and raising that many puppies can not possibly hunting these dogs to there full potential to see what there really made of??? almost looks like a good advertised puppy mill to me. i am not trying to cause hard feelings i am just to get before heading in the wrong direction????

[liontracker]

Get references from Steve and check them out. I know the Lancasters tried some out.

[livetohunt]

I have talked with them they are great people. And they are more then willing to give you all the references you want. I know they are on this forum you should look them up and talk with them some. And let us know when you do get some how they are hunting for you. I have been looking for some on the west coast.

[Majestic Tree Hound]

Yes we do have Alot of hounds "Thats for Sure" !! But their are also very Good Reasons for this..

We are very Close to Starting our Line breeding program, (Only 2-3 More Outside Crosses to Make )
Their will be 3 Lines Once we Start .. While getting to a point to Start this type of program it requires a great many Hounds.. Every litter produced has to be completly tested for 2 years before they can become Breeding Stock or Even if the Org. Breeding was any good at all .. All of our hounds are hunted in a rotation system "Or who ever Sticks their head thru the Tracking Colar First .. All the hounds are housed together and are't Chained or Kenneled "We live in their Kennel" lol Sometime they even leave a spot on the Couch for us..

We are far from being the top Breeders of Majestics "Lee Newhart" and His Brother in-law "Robert Cooper" have been Breeding these hounds for 35+ years now and have really been gearing up their Breeding Program latly their Contact # is 607-387-3375..

"Bob Blackford" in Iowa has been breeding Majestic's for quite awhile also and produces maybe 6+ litters per year.. His Contact # is 641-203-3099

Their are Several Fokes breeding Majestics in Utah that have some fine stock ..

"Big Old Plott" on this Site, has produce some fine hounds out of Plott/Bloodhound Crosses that are real lookers..

Heck last year was a Big one for Us 3 litters (31 pups born and 31 went to their New Owners Other than the Ones we Kept out of the 2 First Time Crosses)

Never again will we produce 3 litters "Way to Much Work" We will stick to 1-2 each year.. This year Only 1 litter !! Due on the 30th of this Month and All sold out !

If one of my other females come's in I may breed her to a French Blue Male .. But we would keep nearly all these pups to evaluate the Potential on a even plane ..

[Majestic Tree Hound]

I guess to Better Ill. why you end up with So Many Hounds and pups is ..

Once you have made your first Outside Crosses and you have selected a pup from the litter that you think will be a good one .. You begain hunting that pup and as he ages he really has alot of Hunt Abilities, After he turns 2 years old its time to "Test" his Breeding Attrabutes, the only real way to Test his Reproduction Abilities is to Breed him to a "Total Outcross" and this may be tougher than you may think.
I Selected "Hammer" out of 4 Pups that kept till they were 10+ weeks old
Hammer has been Hunted on Bobcat, Coon and Bear.



For his First Breeding I Selected a UKC Reg. English Coonhound . I ran a 10 Generation Ped. on the two Hounds only to find that they were related thru Vanzants Sam "English" to Mountain Music Blue "Bluetick" . So like I said above Finding a Totaly Unrelated Outcross is Prit Tough.. They were Related in the 9th and 10th Gen. both on Top and Bottom of the Peds to Mountain Music Blue .. But I figured that out of over 1000 Hounds it was a small Chance that their Genetics would search that deep to make a Match..
Well I got 11 pups out of this Mating and Now you have to keep pups out of the litter to Test.

I pick one cuz I like Bluetick Color and the other 2 were random picks 1 Female and 1 Male. 4 other pups out of the litter are very close, 2 are with a Partner Kennel "Bawling Tree Kennels" .
Here is Hammer "Potential Line Stud" and 2 of the Male Pups Kept "Blue BOO and Tonka".
9 months old



This is the Female "Hanna" 9 months old now



Hanna at almost 8 months old became a Huntaholic, She would be eather tracking Squirrels or Treed up somewhere out in the Woods most of the Day .. I spoke with Cindy Thompson at Bawling Tree Kennels and she segusted that we send 2 pups out for outside Coon trainning and she had been using a Trainner and Pen in S.C.. So 2 pups were sent down 1 was "Hanna" and the other Pup was "Cotton Eye Joe" Cindy's Pup from the Breeding. Well as the reports from the Trainner started coming in it was looking really good. The 2 pups spent a few nights running coon in the Pen and treeing well, the Trainer took them out of the pen and started turnnig out some coon for them and they Tracked and treed the Released coons, Heck he even shot a few out for them..
Before they were to return home the 2 pups were tracking and treeing their own wild coon. Well offcourse when I got Hanna back well over a month, I took her out 2 nights latter and the 8-1/2 month old was Doing it like a Pro..
As a side note My coon poup. is at Rock bottom !! 4th year of Distemper and you may have to hunt 2-3 night before finding a coon.. This is one of the main reasons I sent her out for Training second reason is Just another Test of the pups Ability to Adapt and Hunt in a different area and a Different Handler..

So as you can see how the Hounds Add Up .. Heck Hammer Still has another Breeding Test as a Potenial Stud, I have to breed him back on the Main line to see if he still Reproduces.. Yet More pups to keep and Test .. But I believe Hammer has potential So I have to Collect Him and Store him .. You know Shit Happens "Here Today Gone Tomorrow" !!

Years ago I was reading a 50s Full Cry on Line Breeding and the Writer went into great depth on how this Adds up in pups and Time to line Breed.

And on top of it all I have 2 more Out Crosses on French Blood to Make .. Thats about 5 more years and alot more Hounds and Pups !!! But The Already started lines can go on Breeding ..

I have decided to start Using Dbl Studs on each Breeding using AI .. This Shortens the Process by Years .. Its well worth the $35 per pup for DNA testing..

Sorry so Long Winded "But Its a Long Process" lol

[Bow]

i have one of saltlicks hounds. vary smart hound fast learner. you would have to look a long time for some one that looks after there hounds like slk dose.

[livetohunt]

Hey Steve have you sold any to anyone from Northern Cal? I would really love to take a look at one of these dogs. I would also like to know how they do in the heat we get here in the summer time?

[Majestic Tree Hound]

No I have not sold any in Ca. yet. But as far as heat goes Usualy we Get 2 different types of Coats on the Pups .. We get Long Hair and Short and I try to Send the Long Coats up North and the Short Coats to the South and South West .. We only have one pup in AZ. and 2 in NM. and I haven't had any reports of over heating .. Now we get real Hot durring the Summer 98^ but the Humidy stays way up in the 70s - 90% range and even at night I had Red Bear go down with Heat Exhaustion .. And I feel bad about it the poor boy was trying to get back to me and I kept Hollering for him to get Back Now !! As I got close to him his eyes were rolling back in his head and I had to carry him to the Creek .. But its kinda funny I have ran him hard on hot nights sence then and He's never done it again..

[livetohunt]

I will keep my eyes and ears open to see one around here. I would really love to see one crossed with a Redbone. See we don't get the humidity hear in the summer its around 35%-45% but it does get warm some summers 115+ and only down in the upper 90's at night. It don't seam to get as hot as it did when I was younger I know we would always have a week or two in Aug that was around 120 straight. I guess that's just the global warming .

[bad moon]

steve,
thank you so much for the insight on your hounds it sounds like you have quite the breeding program going on... just curious as to whether or not any of your dogs are turned into finished dogs before they are selcted as breeding stock? imo it takes alot more than a little coon hunting to trully see a dogs abilities. i would love to learn more about your line breeding program and how it works? i have selected a black n tan bud hutcins female to cross back to a misouri bred blood hound i picked up who is trailing cats and bear really nice. i would like to find another female to add to my pack..?

[DantheHoundMan]

Hey Steve, do you have any older dogs for sale at the moment. If not, when will the next litter be?

[bency]

how many cups of feed do you pour those dogs? they're pretty big!

[Majestic Tree Hound]

Well we had a litter Saturday, started at 12:15 pm and went till 4:30 and Had 6 Pups 3 males and 3 females "Perfect # Actualy we had Deposits and Orders for 5 and I'am keeping a Female" Had some real good Color .. The Breeding was "Big Red Bear X Queen KONG" Queen Stands right at 27" and has a 25-1/2" Earage and her Usual weight is around 98 to 101#s

The Day before she had the Pups Queen Weighed 111#s









As far a Feed goes 50# will last the 18 Hounds about 1-1/2-2 Days Trying to go 3 days durring the Summer

Here's a Not to Far Distant Breeding if I can get Stain to hold out till next Spring LOL

Alley X BOO ......

[MDbloodtracker]

Stain or Stan......I'll answer to either
Rest assured, we'll be waiting for BOO.......I've followed him and his progress ever since he was born......I can wait another year.......I just gotta make sure the next time they see each other isn't in aound 5 months, cause she might not be able to waite
What a combo.....

[bad moon]

steve could you explain your line breeding plan a little more i am not sure i understand how it works how close do you keep the genetics, and for how many generations? do you ever half to enter in new blood ? i have always been under the impression that line breeding can also bring out bad genetics...?