Lion Dog Pups
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Ike
Lion Dog Pups
http://www.ingramwildlife.com/lionstart.wmv
I made a cross between my red Choco dog and a little ticked English female I call Rui Li (Ray Lee) a couple months back just in case something happens to him. Choco came out of a cross I made between my LionHeart and Ike dogs, while Rui Li came from a cross Richie Zacarrdi and I made between my blue Ryan dog and his red and white Echo female. All of the dogs that these two came from have been pretty darn good lion and bear hounds.
What I like about Choco is the way he fired on track or off the box, as he has a hair trigger and uses his mouth a lot when he strikes. This dog rigs cold lion tracks better than most bear dogs rig cold bear tracks. And he gets the whole box going when he strikes. The only hound that I've ever seen rig with him was his old man, that redbone Ike dog of mine. It's gonna be fun to see what these little buggers will have when they get up and running........
This lion track was in early November on a very thin skiff of snow or frost, and I had six hounds loaded. As you can see, I just dumped the box on one side and let Choco, Kody and Rui Li have first crack at the start then turned in Ike, Griz and Maverick behind them.
ike
I made a cross between my red Choco dog and a little ticked English female I call Rui Li (Ray Lee) a couple months back just in case something happens to him. Choco came out of a cross I made between my LionHeart and Ike dogs, while Rui Li came from a cross Richie Zacarrdi and I made between my blue Ryan dog and his red and white Echo female. All of the dogs that these two came from have been pretty darn good lion and bear hounds.
What I like about Choco is the way he fired on track or off the box, as he has a hair trigger and uses his mouth a lot when he strikes. This dog rigs cold lion tracks better than most bear dogs rig cold bear tracks. And he gets the whole box going when he strikes. The only hound that I've ever seen rig with him was his old man, that redbone Ike dog of mine. It's gonna be fun to see what these little buggers will have when they get up and running........
This lion track was in early November on a very thin skiff of snow or frost, and I had six hounds loaded. As you can see, I just dumped the box on one side and let Choco, Kody and Rui Li have first crack at the start then turned in Ike, Griz and Maverick behind them.
ike
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Re: Lion Dog Pups
Do you have any pics of the Mom and Dad?
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Re: Lion Dog Pups
Well you definetly need a strike dog like that to teach your up and comers how to strike from the box! Get those pups you got coming up trained up right by him
Re: Lion Dog Pups
Are you selling them or what.
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Ike
Re: Lion Dog Pups
I see alot of people pushing their dogs on here as stud dogs and pups for sale. As you probably noticed, I've never offered any on here but I think I have something in that Choco dog that I haven't ever seen before.. Hell sakes, I've never even heard of a hound that will rig a lion track everytime he goes to the mountain, spring summer or fall.....
To answer your question, I'm gonna sell a couple and keep a couple if they make it........
To answer your question, I'm gonna sell a couple and keep a couple if they make it........
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Nice looking video and dog's Ike. You shouldn't have any trouble getting rid of them.Good luck.
Its a dam poor women who cant support a man and a pack of hounds.www.sprucemountainhunting.com
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Ike
Re: Lion Dog Pups
thanks for the vote of confidence Spruce Mountain, and you are probably correct!
keep'em treed,
ike
keep'em treed,
ike
Re: Lion Dog Pups
Whats the other half of the breeding or the make up in your Choco dog?
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Re: Lion Dog Pups
On the sire side of Choco was redbones, my Ike dog, who came from Hoffmeister's Red Bomber, who came from Rusty Red and so on and so forth. They were all coon hound bred dogs. And the reason I bought that Ike dog as a pup from the midwest was to show a friend that trail and tree hounds are trail and tree hounds, and that the handler makes the dog what he is and not the other way around. Ike has never been hunted on coons although that was what his breeding was, yet he has ran lion and bear since the day he was old enough to do it.
On the damn side, they were all cross bred big game hunted hounds. Copper (my LionHeart dog) came from a crossbred plott bitch dog of Shawn Labrum's that was outcrossed to a redticked English dog that Leland Evans had, a dog they called Duster. Labrum's Sqaw bitch went back to a cross bred plott dog he bought off CJ Prock (that plott dog was bought as a pup--or traded for another pup--and trained by Labrum, and was not a bought, trained dog); the other side was a Mecham bred hound. Labrum brags that Chief dog up as one of the best he ever owned; while the Evans family did the same on their English dog my LionHeart dog was out of.
Any breeding I ever do will come from a cross from the dogs that I have hunted, and there may or may not ever be another breeding as my time running behind hounds is starting to wind down..........
ike
On the damn side, they were all cross bred big game hunted hounds. Copper (my LionHeart dog) came from a crossbred plott bitch dog of Shawn Labrum's that was outcrossed to a redticked English dog that Leland Evans had, a dog they called Duster. Labrum's Sqaw bitch went back to a cross bred plott dog he bought off CJ Prock (that plott dog was bought as a pup--or traded for another pup--and trained by Labrum, and was not a bought, trained dog); the other side was a Mecham bred hound. Labrum brags that Chief dog up as one of the best he ever owned; while the Evans family did the same on their English dog my LionHeart dog was out of.
Any breeding I ever do will come from a cross from the dogs that I have hunted, and there may or may not ever be another breeding as my time running behind hounds is starting to wind down..........
ike
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Re: Lion Dog Pups
Hell sakes, I've never even heard of a hound that will rig a lion track everytime he goes to the mountain, spring summer or fall..... --from Ike
Ike, I hunt bears In Virginia and have never seen a lion up a tree, but I know know one thing for sure, you don't rig a bear or coon or lion "everytime". I know you catch some heat on these sites but why would you post such BS.
Not going to argue, and I am sure you have some decent dogs, but there is NO SUCH THING as everytime.
Ike, I hunt bears In Virginia and have never seen a lion up a tree, but I know know one thing for sure, you don't rig a bear or coon or lion "everytime". I know you catch some heat on these sites but why would you post such BS.
Not going to argue, and I am sure you have some decent dogs, but there is NO SUCH THING as everytime.
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Re: Lion Dog Pups
Well, there is some truth in what you say and a good point made cause a guy doesn't pass a lion track on every trip to the hill. So let me restate my comment, I have never seen another hound rig a cold lion track off or in the box other than those two red dogs of mine (and that Sam dog brother and son of theirs I sold), but now days very few times do I go to the mountain that Choco doesn't rig a lion................
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Re: Lion Dog Pups
I hunt bear in Washington and we rig a bear EVERYTIME we go out, everytime. I have no doubt that if you have a dog like Ike's that you can rig a cold or hot lion track everytime out in the mountains if you hunt the right areas. Now if you went to sage brush country and tried to find a bear it would be way harder, there are several brush country bears just not as easy to catch/find if you dont have tree or get em bayed up on the ground