Walker Breeding????

koonta · Post by **koonta** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:05 am

What pedgree should I be looking for in the walker breeding that will make a great bobcat dog? I have heard Nance and Lipper anyone have some Ideas and reason! Thanks Greg

Hipshooter · Post by **Hipshooter** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:30 pm

I would not look at the papers much.
I would buy from parents that are bobcat dogs from
many generations back.
I would not be color blind either.

Dads dogboy · Post by **Dads dogboy** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:45 pm

koonta,

From what I have learned on here, the man you should talk to is Jeff Allan.

You will find his phone number on some of these Bobcat Posts. His Hounds have lots of thought and years of expierence behind them!

Just my thoughts!

CJC

twist · Post by **twist** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:51 pm

I have had the Nance strain of walkers for close to 25 years and they have excelled very well on bobcats. They are very fast drifting type hounds with great treeing and tracking ability. Believe me I am not color blind when it comes to hounds if they catch bobcats consistant they could be purple but like I said the Nance strain has treated me good for many years. later Andy

tedsmith · Post by **tedsmith** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:15 pm

A man told me one time never buy a dog from anybody that can't show you at least 3 generations of those hounds. If he can't the dogs he has been hunting either did not suit him, or even worse he may not know the difference.Just food for thought. There are legitimate hunters on here who have just what I have described. Talk to them they will help. Maybe dynamite will blast one out of them Clays. Don't know but I'll see. Good luck Ted Smith

Mike Leonard · Post by **Mike Leonard** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:55 pm

Don't beleive anything that is said about Twist or Jeff Allen and bobcats dogs!

Just kidding I heard that Jeff got a track going once but his dogs couldn't put a tree on the end of it so he called Andy in Montana to bring old Topper back down and by the time he got there the track was several days older.Well they cut old Topper a loose and then threw another log on the fire and they figured old Topper just about had him caught but they ran out of tongue oil and had to go to town so they called a guy over in New Mexico to throw his best cat dog in and come. He said well I busy but I think Chassie is winding it from here so I will just kick open her pen and let her go. You guys call me after she gets him treed. Throw another log on the fire. LOL!

Call old Big N Blue up and ask him to find you a cat dog. C. John , Tell Dad to go ahead and accept that collect call. LOL!

cab · Post by **cab** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:53 am

I am like Koonta, Not just interested on what you use for cat dogs, but why? What sits them apart from the rest of the breed, (breeds). Also what conditions and terrain do you hunt in and would your dogs do as well under different conditions?

twist · Post by **twist** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:29 pm

I gotta say Mike that is a pretty good story! Sounds just like the DREAM I had last nite :lol:

keep up the stories always an enjoy to read serious or not. cab as to answer your ? the Nance strain that I have raised is a very hard track driving bobcat dog that does not hang up on a track they drift out past the hangups and keep it moving they are also very athletic built dogs that carrie them selves real well in all kinds of terrian they are easy to handle and most of all know how to put an end to the track with great locating ability. I am not saying they are the best strain out there but they have treated me well for the past 25 yrs. later Andy

Mr.pacojack · Post by **Mr.pacojack** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 2:07 am

I like the Heavy Bozo line of dogs. They get it done for me. Had about every line there is and still like the Bozo line but it has to be up close :wink:

Good luck

Riverbottom · Post by **Riverbottom** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:12 pm

Twist, I hunted with Bob Marosok back in the early 80's. He had Bobby and a few other dogs, don't remember their names. I was hunting a finley river bred dog that was a good cold trailer and jump dog on cats, but was not fast. Bob also had a dog out of Spring Creek Rock along that he had picked up somewhere.

It was colder than hell, -25's at night and not above 0 that day. We put them down on a cat track that we thought was from the night before, turned out to be a two day old track. The Nance dogs took that track and moved it out of there. My old dog just bawled and walked it out. The Spring Creek Rock dog barely moved and barked about a thousand times a minute.

We had a good long walk and I got to see lots of country. Never did catch up to that cat. We picked up the Rock dog and my dog and went back to the truck, the Nance dogs had left the rest far behind. I don't think the Spring Creek Rock dog got to eat much of Bob's feed

Good to see someone is keeping this line going.

Tim Pittman · Post by **Tim Pittman** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:38 pm

I'll go out on a limb here.I've posted this before,I feel it takes a combination of different kinds[being styles] of dogs hunted and raised together to consistantly catch a high number of cats[this also goes for percentages of tracks completed].The tried and true Rig to tree start dogs here in the northwest,that belong to the most succesfull BOBCAT hunters all go back to sons,daughters of Finley River Chief 30 years ago.The only catman I'm not sure on this is Elmer Blankenship,and most of our dogs have some of that recipe in them too now.But some of these awesome cold nosed startdogs can get a little sticky so we have some runnin dog crosses[such as Mike kemp blood]in the pack along with some of the Nance we all hear about.Recently I purchased a dog from Jeff Allen from his old bloodlines[she's by Tucker and out of Nada afemale he sold to Jim Bundrick]and it appears she has a cold nose and can pick her head up and run with a track.Dewey[hunting partner]also has a few Leopard Curs from McDuffies line.
I know you hear alot about only hunting 1-3 dogs on bobcat,but imagine this if you have 6-10 independent dogs looking for the track and when it's jumped covering a swath of ground,you'll probably relate to me when I read the posts on bobcat tricks and how difficult the whole thing is.
The bottom line is no matter what the line a person chooses,it boils down to this-If you keep your dogs on straight Bobcat and nothing else no waivering.You'll find in couple years of hard work dedication,and being able to have a oppurtunity to hunt around somebody who has really put the time in on these critters that a jumped cat is a caught cat.
Tim

curtj · Post by **curtj** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:14 pm

hey tim, ive live on the coast and hunted with quite a few fellas but still havent hunted with one that caught every cat he got after. Was wondering if you could hook me up with one?

Tim Pittman wrote:I'll go out on a limb here.I've posted this before,I feel it takes a combination of different kinds[being styles] of dogs hunted and raised together to consistantly catch a high number of cats[this also goes for percentages of tracks completed].The tried and true Rig to tree start dogs here in the northwest,that belong to the most succesfull BOBCAT hunters all go back to sons,daughters of Finley River Chief 30 years ago.The only catman I'm not sure on this is Elmer Blankenship,and most of our dogs have some of that recipe in them too now.But some of these awesome cold nosed startdogs can get a little sticky so we have some runnin dog crosses[such as Mike kemp blood]in the pack along with some of the Nance we all hear about.Recently I purchased a dog from Jeff Allen from his old bloodlines[she's by Tucker and out of Nada afemale he sold to Jim Bundrick]and it appears she has a cold nose and can pick her head up and run with a track.Dewey[hunting partner]also has a few Leopard Curs from McDuffies line.
I know you hear alot about only hunting 1-3 dogs on bobcat,but imagine this if you have 6-10 independent dogs looking for the track and when it's jumped covering a swath of ground,you'll probably relate to me when I read the posts on bobcat tricks and how difficult the whole thing is.
The bottom line is no matter what the line a person chooses,it boils down to this-If you keep your dogs on straight Bobcat and nothing else no waivering.You'll find in couple years of hard work dedication,and being able to have a oppurtunity to hunt around somebody who has really put the time in on these critters that a jumped cat is a caught cat.
Tim

Tim Pittman · Post by **Tim Pittman** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:32 am

Curtj???I sent you a pm.I did say JUMPED not every one that was got after.And I have seen stretches out of a pack of topcat dogs that caught EVERY JUMPED cat for 16-17 in a row.Then like anything else that bleeds or breathes air,they'll have some screw ups.But JUMPED cats are usually lost 1 of 2 ways not locating the tree or stopping at the hole where the track ends.
Tim Pittman 541-912-6464

Elroy Tate · Post by **Elroy Tate** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:17 pm

Mr. Pittman,

You hit the nail on the head. I have hunt cats my entire life as well as my father and granfather and couldnt of said it any other way. Good Day...........

Dads dogboy · Post by **Dads dogboy** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:33 pm

Mr. Pittman,

What you said applies to us here in the Southern US as well. As we told someone else on here 97% of the Cat we jump are Caught or Treed.

The other 3% either go in the ground, hit the h2o and stay there, or "S..T Happens".

Could not have said it better myself!

C. John Clay
Dads Dogboy

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