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Sad Weekend...

Post by Redwood Coonhounds »

Just got back from my hunting trip this weekend.

I've been working Saturdays so haven't been able to go. Season's been open for 3 weeks in a different zone, and this is only the first time I got to go.


It didn't start off too bad. We left Friday night, and spent the night. Only to wake up at 2am and not be able to sleep again, as everyone started showing up. It never get's daylight fast enough on the first day of season. But by 5, everyone was there, and we were on the road rigging. We were the first in the line up, followed by 4 other rigs. Right off the bat, we almost run over a deer, with the dogs on the strike pad. Luckily for us, no one said anything about it. They watched it bound over the hill and got back down to their lean so far over, feet on the bumper, almost falling off the rig stances, with noses and tails at work. It wasn't to long before we got a strike, and turned em down.

Right from the drop things started off rocky.... Now it's been about 99 degrees this past week, and Saturday was no exception. We were sweating loading the dogs at 4 that morning. So it was warm. The area is all steep hills, with no trees, only brush. So turning loose here there's only about a 2% chance of treeing a bear in one of the 5 trees in the area. You just get em on the ground. So with no cover, no water, and high heat, we figured this woud be over fairly quickly. It'd sprint to the bottom into the thick stuff, and the hold up would begin - hopefully well enough for it to be taken on the ground... If not the dogs would drop out due to the heat and we'd try again Sunday.

We'll after we put ours down, they turned few dogs turned in that swung wide, almost like they we're going to start another track. A feww sounded bayed up on the brush... The first few dogs just took it straight down and around the hill. It didn't take to awful long before they stopped and sounded bayed. The other dogs by that time figured it out, and got over there to the others. Wasn't too much longer before they all started the silent bay. Out of 9 dogs the most that were barking at one time was 3. 7 of the 9 did thier fair share of barking, but they just could never get it all together at once. Two of them never made a sound the rest of the day.

Craig started in, only to have them break at about half way. 3 dogs got a good lead on the others, and it started to sound like two separate races from then on.... That bear never did stop again after that. He circled them, scattered them, and just plain ran them in the dirt, and made every dog there look like they'd never been in the woods before. The bear was seen 3 times by different people, with a clear shot, yet no one ever fired. We did manage to keep him from crossing the road though, he was pretty spooky of the trucks. At around 1 o'clock that day the bear was seen in an opening, actually sitting down panting - the closest dogs we're about 1/4 mile away - no one fired, and we had no fresh dogs, so he went on his way again.

Within the next our, 6 of the 9 dogs were out or on there way out. Where the bear had been seen "resting" was no more than 200 yards off the road, so we just waited there and most were happy to come out by the time they got to that point. One dog stopped short of there and called it quits for the day in the bottom - and is still down there wainting for someone to rescue him, LOL. The other 3 pressed on and he took them out of the hole and into the bottom of the river, where there are no roads... One was caught crossing the river by some rafters, and the other two - one of which is our redtick Butch - are still in the woods. I have work in the morning, but a few of the others stayed behind to look for them - hopefully they will be out this evening when it cools off.

I will be thankfull to go back to our regular hunting area as soon as it opens... Really gives you a reality check to see "bear dogs" turn into "fair dogs" in one race. LOL. But thats what you get for expecting to catch something the first time out, with some dogs that haven't even been off the chain since December.


But on an even sadder note - my Uncle lost one of his young dogs this weekend. Knowing it's not a place to turn in young dogs, he kept his little female from his last litter in the box. He brought her with him, just in case we might tree something, so she could be walked to a tree and see a bear for the first time. She was just over a year and did excellent this coon season. He actually had two the same age, but this one was just really impressing him.... He stopped at around noon sometime to let her out to cool off and go to the bathroom when a River Rafting Company Bus came speeding down the road and plowed her over - mind you a bus full of people - and the driver didn't stop... It left his pup in the road screaming with her back leg snapper in half, her front shoulder dislocated, and her head smashed and bleeding - she had to be put down on the spot. This same guy had ran us off the road a few times before that day, barelling down the road at top speed on little tiny dirt roads.My uncle talked to the owner of the company, and he agreed to pay for the dog and gave him a check in the amount he asked with no hesitation - but it's still very upsetting. I think had he known something as simple as letting her out to go to the bathroom would end her life - he would have rather let her take a chance with the bear.




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Hm, I think they're down here.
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Hello there... Today is not your day.
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What a waste of such a promising young hound....
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Post by bluedogs »

sorry to hear about the dog that got ran over i would be irrate. no matter how much money the guy give him it cant replace what that dog could of been and would of been.
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Post by Melanie Hampton »

Oh my god that is awful... My biggest fear is the damn roads... Funny since I know 2 dogs in the last 12 months that have been killed by the game animals they were trying to tree... But the damn roads worry me the most everytime I let one out of the box.. I am teared up over this... I am sorry for your uncle and the loss of a pup that hadn't got to try and meet it potential... Even though it is a pup, it is hard to put a price on one that loses it's life that way....
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Post by plottdogs »

Very sorry about the dog, but does that last picfture serve any real purpose. Not trying to start anything, but think about how this could be used against hound dogging. The person driving that bus needs to be dealt with in a very personal manner.
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Cassandra ~ That's terrible to hear about the pup. I know NO AMOUNT of money can replace a good dog or a pup that's showing to be a good prospect!!


YES Plottdogs!! That picture DOES SERVE a purpose!! It's a picture of someone's hound doing something that WE LOVE TO DO!!
Do you see anything being done against the law in that picture? Do you see any animal being hurt in that picture? NO YOU DON'T.

I for one AM SICK AND TIRED of standing back and not standing up for what we do! I should say that I'm SICK AND TIRED of others doing that, because I DON'T!!
I'm not one bit afraid of showing my dogs doing what they were bred for and a good time being had by them as well as myself, after a good days work has been done by them.

Yes, maybe if you had on a tape, a group of bloodied up dogs being bitten repeatedly, and some misplaced shots on a Bear or a Hog by amature hunters that would be something that you wouldn't want out there. In fact, I wouldn't want to hunt with such Morons, and wouldn't!

I'm sorry, but not this picture that you're talking about.

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Post by plottdogs »

Plott Proud, the picture I was referring to is not even on here now. It was a picture of the man's dog after it was run over and no that did not serve a purpose that I could see. No one said or implied that any hunter has to justify anything to anyone. The picture of the dog treeing was not and is not the issue. You are getting worked up over something that is not there now and evidently you didn't see. I did not go to any moderator or anyone about the picture of the dog after it had been hit by the bus, I simply asked a question about an injured/dead dog being appropriate viewing on a website. Someone must have agreed or it would not have been deleted. End of this discussion on my part.
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plottdogs ~ I had no idea of any other picture being upon the board that no longer exists.
I thought you were referring to the last picture that's now visible.

I'm sorry.

Maybe Redwood Hounds got to thinking about the pic and deleted that picture themselves.


As for being worked up, I'm not! I just take offense when someone tries to act like WE don't have a right to express our satisfaction with our Sport of Choice! Which clearly ISN'T what you were doing here.

Enough said. Thanks for clarification.

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Post by plottdogs »

Irv, it was just a misunderstanding, nothing more. You are right, if we aren't proud of our dogs when they do well then we are in the wrong sport. I hate to see these things get out of hand on an internet site, well handled here I think. I wish you and your dogs the best of luck.
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You're right. The same wishes right back atcha!
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Post by Vance M. »

That sucks! Nothing scares me more than the idea of one of my dogs getting run over
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Post by corbin »

i hate river hippies but he is lucky that guy paid him back. im really sory to here about his dog. good luck this season
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Post by pete richardson »

sorry to hear bout dog -- i know the feeling--


1had 2 hit in a week a couple years ago ----

both survived but i was just lucky--

-----both times i was standing in road on track trying to slow traffic--
one woman who flattened my dog was in tears --- she was so upset she killed my dog--i felt a little sorry for her --

well duh --slow down-- she stopped AFTER she hit her :!: -thats too late -

dont ask me how but somehow dog survived -i was sure she was dead- -



i almost got my whole pack taken out last week--


i heard brakes lock up--- somebody braked hard for the bear-

drove up rd and got their just as dogs hit the road

u heard bout the pack of foxhounds that u could cover with a blanket- ?

thats how they hit the road and a truck slowed a little--


he didnt want to-- he saw me with flashers on truck and i was standing close to yellow line and he slowed just enuff so dogs barely made it-

i know the whole worlds in a big hurry but if i see somebody standing in road and vehicles with flashers on , i slow down -

really irritates me that people cant be bothered to let off the gas for a dog in the road --
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Post by Spokerider »

Ahhh Crap. Running over someone's dog knowingly and not stopping :evil: . Hummmm..... I'd be extracting my ouce of flesh, you could bet on that!

Hope you uncle doesn't pine too long, as crappy a situation as it were.
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Post by Boozer »

Sorry to hear about your dog that is a bad way for one to have to go but there is a time and place and that just so happened to be it.
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Post by Paul Conway »

moving over and slowing down when someone in an orange vest is on the edge of the road or a foot inside the lane near a vehicle with flashers on seems to be the last option taken. Speeding up or maintaining their excessive speed seems to be the two favorite options. Talk about frustrating as some of you know first hand. The world is full of people I wouldn't mind having for neighbors, I just have trouble meeting them.
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