Old School Hounds!?!

[liontracker]

Brindle, is that hound out of Sage and Filly or Freckles?

[idahobearcat]

I HAVE A LITER OF 7 OUT OF MY SMALL B&T FEMALE AND MY 90+LB BUCKSKIN MAJESTIC, NAME IS BOOMER AND HE'S CALLED THAT FOR ONE REASON. THREE ARE B&T AND 4 ARE CARMEL WITH SOME BLACK THAT MAY GO BRINDLE. THEY'LL BE 5 WEEKS ON 9-29 AND ARE THE BIGGEST PUPS I'VE HAD AT THIS AGE. HOUNDY AND LOUD IS FOR SURE AND BOTH PARENTS ARE AWSOME FOR ME ON BEAR AND LION.

[Brindle]

he is of the sage and filly cross with sage on top and bottom and he sure is a nice dog what can you tell me about this cross on the cameron side and the sugar creek side any info is appreciated

[liontracker]

You say Sage top and bottom, was this Sage bred to his own daughter or was this 1/2 bro x 1/2 sis cross? Sage was a son of Savage Blue. Savage Blue sired many greats, some are still in Del's kennel. Others are my own Cosa and Bundricks Blue Man. I am linebreeding one family line on Sage right now and I am 3 generations down from Del. They are great bobcat dogs. I used to own Filly and her aunt Freckles, they passed away in my kennel. Along with some John Roberts and Don Crowder stuff, they were the last of the last - Sugar Creeks in the US. Anybody with that blood should get together on a breeding program before it is diluted any further. Filly was a tremendous treedog with the coldest nose I have ever seen on a bluetick. She was 27" tall and weighed 115 lbs in running shape. One of her sons I kept is 28 1/2" tall and 120 lbs. The vast majority bred like this made outstanding biggame hounds.

[Brindle]

sage x cameron nellie are grandparents on top and sage x filly are grand parents on bottom and holy crap i will tell you what this dog was baying hard not just a bark here and there and he was treeing like a regular at the age of 12 weeks this dog has a hell of a nose on him too i cant wait to get him on some cats this winter. i am almost tempted to go all blue. i had a female along the same lines and she got ran over a couple weeks ago so i am looking for a good female with the lines necessary to breed to he is 5/8 cameron 3/8 sugar creek

[BuckNAze]

Jeez thats big! Do you have any pics of those last 2 dogs you stated there Liontracker? Would love to see them!

[liontracker]

Buck, I never got a real good one of Filly, but have some that you can get a good idea from. As for her son Ben, I have it on my list to stack him up for a portrait. I think I will start a thread on my Sugar Creeks so guys can get an idea. They get bigger. I have seen some that were 31 inches.

Brindle, I'd say it is one of the alltime great crosses. How about you? I started mine at 16 weeks. They all have a hell of a nose and are easy to handle. As luck would have it, I am breeding Filly's son Ben, to Freckles daughter Dice, in November but 6 pups are all already booked from this litter.

FYI - If that Nellie was a full Cameron, then what you have is 3/4 Cameron and 3/16 Sugar Creek, as Filly was only 3/4 SC herself, with some old Smokey River and Ozark Mountain.

[BuckNAze]

Well let me know if you post it in another thread or whatever you decide to do, would love to see them. Also when is your next Cameron cross going to happen. I should be in my new place no later then the end of November and am wanting another pup sometime. Thanks.

[Brindle]

damn you really know your blue dogs so here we go what i really have is 5/8 cameron 1/4 sugar creek and 1/16 casey missouri and 1/16 northern jet the missouri and jet cross was made four generations ago. with a pinch of ozark and smokey river.I will agree with you that is a nice cross. let me know on the future cross because i would buy one by listening to them on my cell phone lol i know you have been taking alot of crap about your gascons but you are definetly a straight shooter.

[liontracker]

The cell phone is a hell of a tool used right!LOL Just so the super slueths know, I had been monitoring Lilly's progress since the day she showed up at Mike's. I'll pm you on a pup.

[Brindle]

definetly let me know thanks

[Flacko]

Rilly Miller has some dang good dogs, my buddy ended up with one and he has a bawl that will blow your hat off, wont give up, has one heck of a nose and is one big a$$ dog, i also have some of his blood in one of my pups and he is also very large and can bawl lowed enouph to nock a turkey out of a roost.

[liontracker]

How are they bred?

[Conejos]

I got one pretty big bawl mouth blue dog out of Van Johnsons stuff. He is big and ugly but has lots of grit and a cold nose. I named him baby cause when he bawls it sounds like a big old baby crying.