Bill Green's breeding advisor

[Majestic Tree Hound]

Well they did have Hounds on the Expedition !!! Foxhound X Bloodhound Crosses !!! Majestics !!!!!!

And Who was David Newell of Fla. ????? With such Fine Hounds !!!!

Well I bet He's the one in the Photo of With Bill and the Fla. Bob Cat .. SoI was wrong about them being French Tri Colors ??? And they were just Old Virginia Running Walker ??

More tribulation struck the Matto Grosso Expedition (TIME, June 1 et ante) on the Brazilian-Bolivian border last week. John S. Clarke Jr.. one of the backers and leaders, shot a jaguar. In the excitement another member of the party shot

John S. Clarke Jr. in the shoulder. Alex ander Siemel, jaguar spearer and expedition field director, got the injured man to their main camp on John Gordon Ram say's huge Descalvados ranch (it is as big as Connecticut), sent him by airplane to Corumba for hospital mending.

Mr. Clarke decided to return to the U. S. at once. Two other financiers of the expedition left with him — Eldridge R. Fenimore Johnson and Samuel Hoopes. Already back in the U. S. are David Newell, organizer of the hound pack which the expedition has been using to trail and bay big South American game, and his younger brother John Newell, who made records of jungle sounds before he took ill last summer.

Left behind on the ranch, but to leave there in November or December with their collection of animals caged for U. S. zoos, were Alexander Siemel, chief animal man, who has recovered from an alligator bite (TIME, April 13) ; Vladimir ("Vovo") Perfilieff, artist and general director; Floyd Crosby, first camera man, now busi ness manager, and his wife (only woman with the party) ; James T. Rehn, zoologist ; Vincent Petrullo. ethnologist ; Arthur Rossi, cameraman; Ainslee Davis, sound engineer; Uncle George Rawls. famed Florida cracker guide: and the dogs. The dogs, typical U. S. hunters, have contributed largely to the expedition's game catch. Most are foxhounds. Others are foxhound-bloodhound crosses. Two are fox terriers. Value of the hounds against jungle beasts was moot when the expedition left the U. S. last winter. The late Paul Rainey had used a pack successfully in Africa many years ago. But Theodore and Kermit Roosevelt when they went to mid-Asia for Ovis poli found hounds useless on cold desert plateaus. On the other hand David Newell, Floridan organizer of the Matto Grosso pack, had confidence in U. S. dogs' abilities.

The dogs have enabled the killing or capture alive of jaguars, pumas, ocelots, tapirs, giant armadillas, deer, anacondas, and a very rare Brazilian red wolf (Chrysocyon brachyurus). Except for Buck and Bill whom alligators killed, the dogs escaped serious mauling by game. Old Jake, 6, their leader, had his right ear clawed by a jaguar. It had to be amputated. Old Jake was responsible for 17 jaguars, six pumas, twelve ocelots. Prior to this Matto Grosso hunt, when he lived in Arizona, he had to his credit 60 pumas. 26 black bears, two grizzlies, bobcats galore. If Old Jake comes out of Brazil alive, Mr. Newell plans to take him next autumn to Siberia to try for long-haired tigers.

MATTO GROSSO FILMS BROUGHT FROM JUNGLE; David Newell in From Brazil With Pictures of Animal

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Bow, have you seen anything from Leon Whitney?

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[Majestic Tree Hound]

Oh that Last one is a real Ouchy on the Lee Brothers !!!!! lol

Hey John do you want Hard Copies of the Bill Green File I have so Far ?? I have been down Loading these Items as you post them !!

I have started Printing out the Photos so far ..

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And here is Bill Green confirming the fact that Leon Whitney was indeed trying to recreate a breed of hound. Although Bill doesn't mention breed, I was told Whitney was trying to recreate the extinct Normandy hound. I found a chapter in an old French hound book that detailed the crosses and process of just such a resurection.

Bow...thanks for taking the time.

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This one appears to be talking about the foundation of the Layser Hounds.
Which was mostly Lee bred.

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Are we getting closer to Historical Providence?

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steve that would be fine and i thank you.i still have more.this last photo for to day is just in case 50 years from now you all will know what my first hound was.