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I have a friend that has a packing house and I feed beef and pork scraps through the year to my dogs, but this time of year all he gets is wild game . My question is does anybody feed deer , elk , moose or any other TRASH!!!! to there dogs and is there a reprecussion.
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Ive asked this question before and always had the same answer.....NO! The scent of deer, elk, moose meat etc. is not the same as the scent those animals leave as they move through the woods leaving scent from there hide, glands, and hooves etc. I also don't beleive dogs should relate what they trail and tree to "dinner time"

Im a far cry from any kind of expert but.....One thing I know for a fact is I feed my dogs beef cuts and they sure don't trail cows when we road through them :beer
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snoopy wrote:I have a friend that has a packing house and I feed beef and pork scraps through the year to my dogs,
Unless your target game animals are pigs and cows(beef and pork), then it seems to me you answered your own question. If eating beef doesn't cause your dogs to chase cows, why would eating venison cause your dogs to chase deer.

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Maybe someone along the way took a ham off a rutted up nasty ole buck and threw it all (hide, glands, hooves) in the lot and the dogs ate it up and then didn't feed their dogs a week or two and took them hunting and they ran down a rutted up ole buck and they ate him. :D I've heard the same stuff. Feed your dog deer meat and they will chase deer. Horse crap. I feed mine every rutted up buck I kill. Usually I kill MY meat in does and hunt for one nice "trophy" buck. I feed him to the dogs if I can't even make chili out of him. I usually cooked my meat before I fed it to them only for ease of feeding. I would cook up a large batch and feed it all week instead of dethawing a small amount every day. That way you don't have to dethaw and hope it didn't get salimanilla (which a dog can indeed contract). I feed mine chicken meat, guts and eggs. No bones thou. (I have alot of chickens) I will feed them anything that is freezer burt in the freezer. All I do is boil it all in a big pot and pour in a can of beef or chicken broth. They'll eat it. Trust me.
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So if I'm cutting up freshly killed meat and freezing it, then unthawing it, and feeding it raw am I running the risk of it being contaminated by Salimanella (or however the hell you spell it)....and im not talking wild meat :?: :?: :?: :beer
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I'm not saying that by doing that you can or can't. I'm just saying there's a chance to contracting it the more times you handle it, place it on a counter top where you've had salimanella, and it's not cooked you CAN run the risk of contracting it. I wouldn't worry about it to much. How many cases of Salimanella in human do you hear about each year. I'm just saying it's easier on me to go ahead and thaw out a large batch, cook it up and put it in the fridge and feed it all week. Besides, you don't have to worry about your woman opening the fridge and freaking out when blood drips outta the bag of raw and covers the bottom of the fridge. Been there... done that at 3 in the am cause she was thirsty and found it. I feed my dogs raw chicken scraps when I'm killing chickens and don't worry about it.
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Of course your dog's can catch Tape worms by eating your neighbors dogs shit so whatta ya do??? :lol: :lol: :lol: Just sayins all. :beer
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No prob I was just checkin...I figured I should be safe....just thought I mighta missed a memo or something!
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feed them all the meat you can. i started doing it last winter and my dogs never looked better. i will start here again now that the meat will stay frozen without a freezer and i can't wait. your dogs performance will drastically improve.
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I would think as long as the skin and glands that produce the scent are removed there would be no problem..
I have fed the scraps ,bones and such from all the deer I have harvested in the last 20 years to the hounds. did not seem to cause any problems... many years ago I fed an old dog I had rabbits. skin hair and all... he sure never run a rabbit his whole life but he surely did have tapeworms all the time...made it to 13 years old in spite of all them.
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feed away, hounds are like coyotes and wolves ment to eat meat. i feed mine meats scraps every chance i get time to run to the butcher. i would shy away from the pork. pigs are a very wormy animal. it wont hurt them but but they wiil have a hard time gaining weight due to constant worms. feeding any raw meat and you should more more often but the results are well worth it.
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a wolf or coyote when they eat meat they eat hair and all, the hair acts like steel wool cuts the worms out,so I have been told by old houndmen. all you have to do is heat it past 135 degrees and it kills all bact.worms,insects, every thing.
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If feeding pork, exp wild pork, you have to heat it up to near 160 if you want to be sure that you have killed absolutely all the tricinosis.

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I have always fed my hounds alot of meat as well, it has to be better then the dog food these days with all the preservatives in it. I also feed alot of rice and pasta, they are simple carbohydrates and once again they are easier on the dogs then preserved food. My hounds favorite meal is left over spaghetti, the sauce has vit-c I put a little sugar in there so they dont get heart burn along with my self and what ever meat I use is protein, and they will do what ever you want them to do if you show them a bowl of spaghetti.
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I just feed black gold, i am very happy with it. I used to cook for my dogs to keep there weight up but then i switch dog foods and now i don't have to cook for them any more. I am a huge believer in that dog food
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