NEW TO CURS

[wwridgerunner]

Well i seem to have found a few curs used for big game,and coon,i found a pup in ny and another in tenn. 1 kemmer and 1 original mtn cur,the man in last months full cry had a litter and am waiting for my turn to pick, should be ready in may,its been a long road and its hard to run curs after you ran hounds for so many years.It can get aggrivateing if you get one that hunts to close,those are the squirrel dogs.The other parts are the dog not staying on a long race,if you get a dog that dosent get a easy bear that trees quick he wont stay in the race he just turns around and comes back those are squirrel dogs,but there are some plus's to haveing big game curs and [there is a difference between big game curs and squirrel curs] some are silent on track so when they jump a bear he just shits and up he goes. surprise!!! lol lol and i dont have to find them i just whistle and in they come and away we go.What i had to learn was i went hunting with them,i didnt just turn them out and they would go.If theres no bear or coon in the area of say 300 yds they just come back and you move or you walk,so ive walked and drove ,so the change in hunting style was something i had to get adjusted to, these are just some of the things ive noticed in a short time and am sure theres much more to learn from these dogs,i am still hanging in but i dont know for how long lol its been tough,i just dont have the numbers of game and the dogs need to get deep and run a track so i guess the area where you hunt also dictates what kind of dogs you run.Thanks for reading my rant sorry its so long,JMO Wayne

[Machias]

Wayne have you given the Leopard Curs a try? May just be exactly what your looking for. Good luck.

[wwridgerunner]

Wayne have you given the Leopard Curs a try? May just be exactly what your looking for. Good luck.

No i havent but if these guys dont work out,i think im going to get a couple of hounds.I have no experience with leopards i can only speak of mountain curs.It just started off bad, guys were telling me that the cur will hunt hunt anything you put them on and this maybe true but the traits arent there to pursue certain game.I was also told that 99.9% turn out.DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE. I shouldve just stuck with my instinct.I never hunted curs and it was all very new to me so i believed alot of the bs about these dogs.There are guys that breed for whats in the blood if its a big name hall of fame dog blood then the pups must be,the big question is were they hunted.Not sitting in someones yard on a chain.Squirrel coon bears bobbys?Sorry to all but im sticking with the game, dogs hunt and what they excell at and then the blood,not the other way around which is what ive been told.Theres always exceptions to the rule with anything,you may get a squirrel dog that will love a bear and a bear dog that will love a squirrel.I wont take chances anymore it been a long road filled with puppymills and bs.WAKE UP DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE.When looking for a cur get one from a guy that hunts and from someone that breeds for quality of game hunted not because ol studley got good blood.Sorry again once i get going on the hype i want guys that are looking into getting a cur to understand,DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE,thats how these curs get a bad rap, there good dogs and dont deserve it.Curs definitly have there place in the tree game world.I think there awsome in there own right.JMO THANKS WAYNE

[Machias]

I understand where your coming from Wayne. One thing to keep in mind and this is just one guys opinion. Curs are not hounds and IMHO should not be handled like a hound. An example that has similarities I like to think works is mules and horses. Lots of horse folks have no clue on how to properly handle a mule. You can get pretty forceful with a horse and get away with it where as it will not work with a mule and you can do some damage to their personailities. I believe curs and hounds are the same way. Most of the shy curs I've run into were made that way by guys handling their dogs the same way they handle a hound. Hounds can take rough handling and being extra forceful. Curs, IMHO are quite a bit smarter then your average hound and should be handled differently than a hound. You should give some of the UKC Leopard Hounds a try, since alot of them anymore have quite a bit of hound blood running through their veins. It might just be the right mix of dog your looking for. They are some game catching dogs that can be handled they way you may be accustomed to. Good luck in the future with whatever type of dog you follow.

[wwridgerunner]

I understand where your coming from Wayne. One thing to keep in mind and this is just one guys opinion. Curs are not hounds and IMHO should not be handled like a hound. An example that has similarities I like to think works is mules and horses. Lots of horse folks have no clue on how to properly handle a mule. You can get pretty forceful with a horse and get away with it where as it will not work with a mule and you can do some damage to their personailities. I believe curs and hounds are the same way. Most of the shy curs I've run into were made that way by guys handling their dogs the same way they handle a hound. Hounds can take rough handling and being extra forceful. Curs, IMHO are quite a bit smarter then your average hound and should be handled differently than a hound. You should give some of the UKC Leopard Hounds a try, since alot of them anymore have quite a bit of hound blood running through their veins. It might just be the right mix of dog your looking for. They are some game catching dogs that can be handled they way you may be accustomed to. Good luck in the future with whatever type of dog you follow.

thanks Fred ill look into them now

[Jeff Eberle]

I understand where your coming from Wayne. One thing to keep in mind and this is just one guys opinion. Curs are not hounds and IMHO should not be handled like a hound. An example that has similarities I like to think works is mules and horses. Lots of horse folks have no clue on how to properly handle a mule. You can get pretty forceful with a horse and get away with it where as it will not work with a mule and you can do some damage to their personailities. I believe curs and hounds are the same way. Most of the shy curs I've run into were made that way by guys handling their dogs the same way they handle a hound. Hounds can take rough handling and being extra forceful. Curs, IMHO are quite a bit smarter then your average hound and should be handled differently than a hound. You should give some of the UKC Leopard Hounds a try, since alot of them anymore have quite a bit of hound blood running through their veins. It might just be the right mix of dog your looking for. They are some game catching dogs that can be handled they way you may be accustomed to. Good luck in the future with whatever type of dog you follow.

Wayne
The Cur is no magic dog If you buy a squirrel dog will have a squirrel dog you have to go with a line that has put the game you want to run, in trees for generations if you are into the Mt. cur you are going to have too pony up the price and shipping cost for one that comes from big game lines like the Fry's or Cal Allen or some one like them that has breed the cur for the big game. Try the Leopard but save yourself some time and get one from big game lines. And not from a guy that is a coon hunter that sold a pup to a guy that runs bear & cat and the pup is doing good at it! And Like Machias said the cur is not a hound and is not for everyone You might want to asks your self why you left the hounds for curs and the 99.9 % thing come on you know better then that. I to hope hope you find what you are looking for Cur or Hound

[wwridgerunner]

Thanks Jeff i agree 100%.It is pretty much my own undoing.

[NWKemDawg]

I agree totally with Jeff, if you are looking to hunt big game with curs ( in this case mtn or kemmer curs) you need to get em from someone that is using them and they work consistently for them. Both kemmers and leopards are great breeds and have some great big game dogs, I know because I have both and they get it done on big game out here for me. .02

[plottpappaw]

sounds like you need to find the right strain. took my kemmer out with my omc's after a monsoon last night and my kemmer went looking so hard she turned her feet to hamburger. just got to find the right ones. they are out there. everything i own has kemmers gold nugget in them.