Open Season

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Did anyone happen to see Open Season wed night. They killed a very small female in co.
The guide was High Voltage outfitters. I watched it hoping to see some dog work,But they took the host from a plane in Denver.
The cat was treed before he even got there I myself was appalled at the size of this trophy. She went maybe sixty pounds. I watched in awe as she was taken with a bow. But they said she was a dry female and had no kittens. I find my disgust growing all the time for guides that would let a cat like that be taken.
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Im just getting started with hunting lions and sure hope guys will leave some in the trees so there is something to run in the future.
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"The cat was treed before he even got there "

If that is correct, it was highly illegal in the state of CO. Shooter must be present at the time the dogs are released.
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It looked like on the show. He went from airport to tree. He said the cat was already treed and he started hiking in.
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Have to be there when its started in colorado, hope you saw it wrong, if not hope the right people find out and get them.
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Might be a little off topic but: I have never shot a lion, I will not shoot a lion unless I tree it myself with my dogs. Any other way seems like a canned hunt, Kind of like shooting elk behind a high fence. The memory of the hunt means more than the end result. If this trophy hunter killed a 60 lb cat already treed he needs to be really proud of himself.
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i have tried everything i can do to try and find that hunt on the internet... is there anyone that knows the link to try and watch it online????
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I would like to set the record straight. I in no way broke any laws while hunting mountain lions on this hunt. As I stated I got off the plane & drove straight to the mountains & met them at the base of the mountain where we started driving up to where they hunt them. We hit a track right away & by the time I was getting ready they treed the mountain lion but it jumped tree before we could get to it & went another 3 miles or so. Once we got to it the second time that is where I took the mountain lion. It was a female she was 100% dry & she was 6'1" which was the second biggest female taken in that area when we took the female in to be checked by the DNR. As far as being Illegal we have Conservation Officers on our Staff to make sure we are doing things legal. It is statements like these that discourage new hunters & hinder the growth of hunting because the animal is not big enough. People are in different stages in their hunting career & it was my first mountain lion I was so pumped it had been a dream of mine to take a mountain lion my whole life. I grew up in the Midwest & I only believe in taking mature bucks for me but if you came to my state & killed a younger buck I would not sit here & bash you for doing so I would be happy for you in your success. I hope this clears up this confusion on this matter & good luck to everyone this fall in your hunting adventures. Chuck Paddock from Open Season TV
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Its good you came on and cleared things up Chuck. Being the hunt started that day would you not want to really enjoy the hunting of mountain lion and pass on the experiance with your veiwers and look for a male lion.
6'1 is tiny! shame on the guys who shot the smaller ones.
She was dry because she had not yet had a chance to breed!
When your so called guide told you it was a small female before turning the dogs out why did you not pass, or catch it and take some film for the show? I bet your guide gave you a different story about the size of cat and track, didn't he.
TV hosts should be portaying conservation first as the important part of hunting not just killing a juvenile to make a show.
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It was legal & my first lion. It was legal. I had hunted for 3 days before that on another hunt. Everyone can't be a trophy hunter.

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1.protection of valued resources: the preservation, management, and care of natural and cultural resources
2.protection from change: the keeping or protecting of something from change, loss, or damage

The Colorado sets the game limits in the area & what you can take which it was a legal animal you are talking trophy hunting not Conservation.
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My guide said that is was a young male he thought but he said he probably isn't a big male & I said look man I have never done this before I am along being a trophy hunter. The DNR said it was a Big Female so you saying she was a juvenile is wrong unless the DNR person at the check in station didn't know what they were talking about when it was the second biggest female checked in in that area.
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[quote="cpaddock87"] We hit a track right away & by the time I was getting ready they treed the mountain lion but it jumped tree before we could get to it & went another 3 miles or so.

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getting ready means standing there doing interviews getting the camera ready doing cutaways when you are filming you are videoing trying to tell the story with the camera as it is happing it is not like just going to the woods to hunt.
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Males lions can be identified for sex prior to shooting....No excuses! You can't identify, you don't shoot, you reposition the cat or walk away!
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I wouldn't be to hard on this guy. I personally would rather see someone shoot an immature cat than a 120 lb. tom. The unit in Montana that I do most of my hunting issues 30 permits with usually a 2/3 success rate. We have a good lion population and every permit holder wants a big tom. This unit doesn't have 20 mature toms so what happens with our 4.5 months long season about half way through 2 to 3 year old toms get killed enmass. I would rather see people shoot sows and immatures rather than young 120 pounders.If someone is happy with a 120 lb. tom they will be just as happy with a 90 pounder.
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