Rig rails

ALEX · Post by **ALEX** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:40 am

Do you all usually put Rig rails on your dog boxes yourselves? I would like to train my dog how to strike coon from an s 10 pickup. i only have one dog so i dont have a dog box that i could put a rig on. So im just wondering if anyone has any ideas on how i could make some sort of a makeshift rig that works like a normal onewould on top of a dog box. Bascially something where my dog could move to both sides of the truck bed but not jump enough slack to jump out and hang himself. Any ideas would be great. Thanks

bearman · Post by **bearman** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:12 am

ALEX u gotta license sucka

riggem out the front window? just put a chain from one side of your bed with a short one in middle short enough that he can't jump out! Man you won't need Super Dave no more,no excuses for not coming up and hunting

Just kidding about Dave good dude! addios muchacho.

Tiny Santana

Budd Denny · Post by **Budd Denny** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:25 am

I have all my hounds so they will rig out the back of my Toyota flatbed with out being tied. It's amazing what you can teach dogs by just taking a little time and patients with them.

ALEX · Post by **ALEX** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:48 am

Hahaha. Tiny I wish i had a license, im gettin my permit in a fewq months here so soon enough ill be able to come up and hunt with all you guys alot more. haha. Budd, do your dogs stay put in the truck when they strike? Because if they do, thats pretty good training i guess.

Budd Denny · Post by **Budd Denny** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:01 am

Yes they do, I let them off the truck one at a time. They don't jump off till I touch their collar. I forgot to mention I used e- collars when training them. I start them out by tying them in the back of the truck off d-rings I have mounted on the wooden flatbed. I think people would be surprised how many of your rig dogs would stay up there if you gave them a chance with out tying them.

southwestwalkers · Post by **southwestwalkers** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:38 am

Hey, bearman

What part of Nor Cal.... I grew up in SJ Know all of Nor Cal real well..

Robb

bearman · Post by **bearman** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:22 pm

Robb, im origanally from Half.Moon.Bay , but know in Oroville.

Tiny

southwestwalkers · Post by **southwestwalkers** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:02 pm

to funny I know half moon bay well use to hangout at the bar in the Moss Beach Distillery

Robb

Melanie Hampton · Post by **Melanie Hampton** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:43 pm

Alex

We don't use rails on our dogbox. Just rig them right off the top. We screwed/glued down some indoor/outdoor carpet. You can then drill a hole through the top and put a screw with the ring on it (forgive me I can't think of what they are called) my dogs are short enough I then just attach a coupler to it and then onto them. Voila they are rigging

We just run a tie strap with knots in it over the dogbox and then to the hooks in the bed of the truck. It also helps to hold the box still if it doesn't fit snug. We attach our couplers in-between the knots to keep the dogs from sliding over.

My dogs have never rigged with rails on... Just have never got around to making them. We can rig 3 dogs with no problems of anyone falling off of the box.

Here is a picture.. Not a great one.. We use to use leashes until we figured out the couplers work better for our shorter dogs. In this picture we still had the leashes.

I have also rigged them out of the back of the truck. I just tied them with a coupler to the hooks in the bed of the truck. They are too short for the dogs to jump out.. They don't get to move around as much but it works.

Don't you have a shop class in school that you can build a dogbox in?

Black&TanMan1 · Post by **Black&TanMan1** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:22 am

If you dont plan on building a box and your going to use your S10 for a hunting pickup I would put a eye bolt in the center of the hood and put some snap rivets on some carpet end attach to hood, the snap rivets are like the ones used to hold the soft top on in a jeep. Several guys use this method out here for riggin bear, theyclaim the sent comes up over the hood and allows them to stike more old tracks on the road. you can just use a short piece of chain and swivel snap to keep the dog on. I believe if I rigged at night I would use this method, can be difficult to keep an eye on your dogs when in the back. I spend alot of time counting feet bear hunting. I can Id most every dog I owne buy there feet.

Bearkiller · Post by **Bearkiller** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:25 am

Budd Denny wrote:Yes they do, I let them off the truck one at a time. They don't jump off till I touch their collar. I forgot to mention I used e- collars when training them. I start them out by tying them in the back of the truck off d-rings I have mounted on the wooden flatbed. I think people would be surprised how many of your rig dogs would stay up there if you gave them a chance with out tying them.

You'll stop doing that when you run over one of your best dogs.

As far as the chain, you can put a strike pad on your hood and rig the dog off of there. If you don't want to drill a hole for an eye bolt you can get an old seat belt from a junk yard and bolt it under the hood and then use a chain to anchor it from there. Use an old rug or some carpet for dog traction and to keep your hood from getting scratched. Its best if it has a rubber back. I agree with anti's very little but one thing they are right on is containing your dogs while traveling. If you leave your dogs unsecured then eventually something BAD will happen. Trust me. This is from personal experience. Make sure whatever chain you use has swivels or you'll spend your night coon hunting untangling your dog. The rails are really only good for rigging multiple dogs. If you have one then I'd use a chain. Also you'll strike colder tracks rigging on the hood then you will out of the back of the truck.

ALEX · Post by **ALEX** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:10 am

Also you'll strike colder tracks rigging on the hood then you will out of the back of the truck.

Why?

Budd Denny · Post by **Budd Denny** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:41 am

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You'll stop doing that when you run over one of your best dogs. )

Bearkiller, I sure hope nothing happens but so far so good. One day I'll probably kick myself in the a$$, and say I wished I would have listend to ya. I just like it when I get out the truck and each dogs looking at me with that, is he gonna let me down this time look on their faces. It tells me their thinking.

pete richardson · Post by **pete richardson** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:35 am

i do about like melanie does- just best to not attract anymore attention than I have too- i dont need a rig rail 90% of the time altho it does keep them on their feet longer --

last box i had with a rig rail-- rail was a tube steel frame to a backseat of an old junk car i found in the woods- -just welded a couple rings and attached snaps -- bolted it down

was very light and plenty strong enuff - was like it was made to fit my dog box---

lot of people asked me where i had that made-

detroit i think lol

Bearkiller · Post by **Bearkiller** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:29 pm

ALEX wrote:
Also you'll strike colder tracks rigging on the hood then you will out of the back of the truck.
Why?

Aerodynamics. Read balckandtan1's post. I guess we were writing at the same time.

Bud, I used to never chain my dogs when coon hunting but after running over and killing my best dog I learned my lesson. The dog didn't jump out he fell out when I hit a bump going around a corner. He fell under the back tire and was killed. Why? Because I didn't want to reach up and unsnap them when I got a strike.

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