Eastmans cat hunt

Yaak attack · Post by **Yaak attack** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:43 pm

Did antone see Eastmans hunting cats on T.V. this week?

Mike Leonard · Post by **Mike Leonard** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:23 pm

No I missed it, was it 100% fair chase?

That's what they advertise so their should have been no unfair advantage given to the hunters.

Big Mike · Post by **Big Mike** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:06 am

I saw it, they did a pretty good job. Made it look a little to easy, but its hard to catch the essence of a lion hunt on film. They treed 5 lions and a bobber on the show let 4 go which I liked. They also put down a couple that they didnt catch. They tied in the need to hunt lions to keep deer herds healthy. In all they did a good job promoting hound hunting and calling it fair chase which i liked.

Mike Leonard · Post by **Mike Leonard** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:55 am

Well that's good I am glad they kept it in the spirit of fair chase. I was afraid they were going to show multiple snow machines, ATV's, radio tracking and GPS collars, multiple rigs on the roads, and fresh snow and all that like so many others do.

A lot of the time you only get to see some hound guys running around and jumping out of the pickup after they show you what a lion track looks like on the road, and then they cut loose the hounds tell you how bad the country is and then take a video of Minnisota Fats huffing puffing into the tree to blast the cat out for the photo session. I guess that is fair chase but it doesn't really ring with the rough and tumble big game hunting that Eastmans portray.

Yaak attack · Post by **Yaak attack** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:02 pm

Fair chase is a fuzzy line. Boone and Crackett says you can't flip on your tracking box or use a radio once the dogs are released. I know I heard a lot of chatter from these guys on the radio when dogs were out. I thought it was odd to show a treed lynx and say it was a bobcat. And to accidently kill a female while try to lead everone to believe it was a tom.

Mike Leonard · Post by **Mike Leonard** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:53 pm

Yaak,

Reckon they could use a new Director? No that would be too expensive may a new Editor. Wink! Wink! LOL!

Big Mike · Post by **Big Mike** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:13 pm

O they had snow machines and the works. No tracking collars on dogs, Bet they just took them off when filming lol

Ike · Post by **Ike** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:08 pm

Mike Leonard wrote:I guess that is fair chase but it doesn't really ring with the rough and tumble big game hunting that Eastmans portray.

If Eastman's are rough and tough tell them to come on out and I'll turn them loose behind my hounds.....I might have to tie a tow rope to their butts to keep up, but we probably have one of those as well. I have a few canyons around here I'd like to see them climb out of, no roads just need a good set of legs...........

A little story for you:

Years ago I ran down a calf killing bear for ADC off a fresh kill--actually the kill was smoking hot when we found it but was a couple days old when we got together. It was in the Book Cliffs and the bear study out there had never once proven any kind of depredation by bears if you can believe that. So I took the ADC guy out and my hounds to catch this killer bear. We had to go out in his truck because his supervisor didn't want it looking like a hunter had to run them down a bear....

Well, we got out there and he looked over the kill and the tracks. "Yup, no doubt about it that bear killed that calf. It was around the middle of June and getting hot, so he said "start them dogs and I'll get my horse." Well, I cut those four dogs of mine loose and he jumped on his trusty steed and said, "let's go!"

Four hours later we got that sow treed and he shot her dead in the tree. Now, we could have driven within a mile or less of that tree and saved ol' Ike seven or eight hours afoot. But i guess that was my punishment for making an ADC guy work on Saturday?

Last time I ever opened my mouth or offered to help those guys. Truth is I wouldn't have done it then had one of the wildlife managers not told me in a public meeting, "you don't have any proof that those bears are any part of the depredation in the Book Cliffs." The truth is I'd walked to hell and back to show him I was right............

The funny part came after that, cause that ADC couldn't get that trusty steed to take that bear out for him. You guessed it, ol' Ike threw that hide around his shoulders and packed it out for him--go figure!

ike :wink:

pegleg · Post by **pegleg** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:02 pm

damn! and i would've let him pack it out and rode his horse back for him course i'm a pretty nice guy that way :wink:

Ike · Post by **Ike** » Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:04 am

Point well taken, and if I ever get in that situation again I'll tell him that bear is his bear....and if his trusty steed won't pack it out then leave it or pack it himself!

ike :wink:

Yaak attack · Post by **Yaak attack** » Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:00 pm

Ike, what has that got to do with what we were talking about. If you want I could start a thread titled "Ike's Tales and other assorted stories".

Catman · Post by **Catman** » Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:20 pm

My problem with Eastmans is they try to hard to make everything sound like fair chase on 100% public land blah blah, but you know if you had the $ to purchase the tags they do....(some on private land) we all could harvest some nice animals. I like to see a lion hunt on t.v. as long as its what you guys stated, and not just the highlights of the hunt. I'd rather watch 30 minutes of cold trailing than all the other hype, but I guess the people without hounds wouldn't even begin to know how to appreciate that part of it, and lets be honest....there was probably only a handfull of hound hunters that seen it. Sometimes they air the same show during the week. I'll see if I can watch it. Do any of you know where the movie was filmed? Who took them?
Catman

bowhound · Post by **bowhound** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:21 pm

the houndsmen was a taxidermist out of Libby, MT. Mel ? can't remember last name. I think he said he does all of eastman's mule deer mounts. think he said, they were hunting about 20 miles from Canada border, didn't get too specific.

Ike · Post by **Ike** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:26 pm

Yaak attack wrote:Ike, what has that got to do with what we were talking about. If you want I could start a thread titled "Ike's Tales and other assorted stories".

What doesn't it have to do with the conversation yaak? My story was about running down a bear from start to finish behind the hounds on foot, not sitting in a saddle but doing on your own, you know, no sled, no roads but fair chase and manning up on your own two legs. And in it I said send that eastman bunch in and I'll show them what fair chase is by stuffin their nose right in behind a pack of hounds, in tough country, afoot, and let them learn what fair chase is...........

Ike's tales? aint no tale to it buddy...just facts! Who gives a shit about eastman's anyway? I sure as the hell don't give a damn about them. Like I said, I can probably find a tow rope if they can't keep up on a fair chase hunt!

ike :wink:

arizonabeagle · Post by **arizonabeagle** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 3:11 am

well hell IKE,
i guess i might enjoy post with all your "tales" haha
got nothin better to do besides play guitar when its 110 and no one wants to hunt..
and i tell ya that guitar is gettin old after you been playin it 6 years..oops did i just tell a story irrelevant to the post?? LOL

so i say its a damn fine idea!

:beer

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