Sparks Pressure Dogs and Lurchers

[Majestic Tree Hound]

Oh NO sounds like the "Zulu" and "Afrikaaner's" are going to Battle !!

[thunderhorn]

Sounds to me like Roy Sparks would make an amazing politition.
Ask him a question and never get an answer.

Ok , I 'll ask again for African.
Roy
Under what conditions and authority did you kill the two huge full mained lions?
Did they escaped from a high fence enclosure and were you called in to assist ?
Were they problem cats that the department hired you to capture and KILL?
Were they wounded and you were called in to assist in killing them for reasons of a safety issue?
Did you conduct a hunt with a client in a high fence?
Did you have permits authorizing your activity and envolvement?

Five very simple strait forward questions, nothing to difficult about replying with an answer unless there is illegal activity surrounding the killing of the two lions?
We have been cleaning house right here on our own doorstep and in our oun state, that is why I ask the questions directed at you Roy ...your conduct effects every houndsmen across the globe as does mine with your activities in SA .
I feel somethings are questionable here and would like some clarification.
My doorstep is clean is yours?

[Roy Sparks]

We went driving by a lion park and my Jack Russell's smelt the lion from the pick up and took off jumping from the back. They got through the bonnox fencing before we could stop them, we tried calling them back in vain, the lions attacked them and the Jack Russell's came running back to us so we had to shoot the lions in self defence. Thought we better take a moment to get a picture with the hounds there for some marketing plans.

Cheer's - Roy.

[Yard Dog]

I guess that response speaks for itself...

To bad, I thought they were some cool pictures.....I won't be reading this anymore....

[liontracker]

...Now why didn't I think of that?LOL

Just think, what would I give ....

I believe I'll start Father's Day early!LOL

Oh. and I'm liking the Jack Russell's. Let's see here...a few JR's and a couple of good hounds, and a walk in the park in CA/WA/OR ...and I'll poke it with a sharpened broomstick to avoid prosecution. They don't have to know I'm lionhunter, just a "touristo", so to speak. So yeh, go ahead, outlaw hound hunting...and only outlaws will have hounds. Just look at the breeds of hounds the german "outlaws" developed. It could be like the old days, when the streakers were a threat... guy takes "Dog's" for "walk" ..."in the park"...Kills Lion with Walking stick...sounds like a new hobby to me.

Like I said, I'll start early.

[thunderhorn]

We went driving by a lion park and my Jack Russell's smelt the lion from the pick up and took off jumping from the back. They got through the bonnox fencing before we could stop them, we tried calling them back in vain, the lions attacked them and the Jack Russell's came running back to us so we had to shoot the lions in self defence. Thought we better take a moment to get a picture with the hounds there for some marketing plans.

Cheer's - Roy.

That is pretty close to what I expected to hear as a reply from this guy.
I wonder why he will not answer the questions asked of him ...Hmmmm...maybe there's alittle "Illegal" activity surrounding this so called hunt?
Makes you wonder why we are loosing the battle to hunt with hounds in the US when there are individuals out there like Roy Sparks who claim to be ethical houndsmen
It is very likely this lion scenario is a similar situation as to why he is no longer conducting hound hunts for leopard in Namibia????
!!!!

[grouse]

Come on Roy lets here it . I'm just a little piss ant hillbilly and have been captivated by your great and thrilling african adventures and now this is your response . Even though i'm no catholic i might just have to say a few hail Mary's FOR YOU . Oh by the way i was gathering up aluminum cans to cash in to save up for a hunt with you but i might as well use the money for a dc-40 .

[johnnyrick1981]

check out the picture's of the same hunt your talking about here on KC's hounds and houndsmen website. Looks like some high end client's

[African]

johnnyrick1981, please post a link so we can add the content to our records.(I did a scan of the site but found no reference, perhaps it has been deleted?)

[Roy Sparks]

Oh dear you guy's really boring the crap out of me. Thunderhorn if you want contact MET in Namibia and ask them if they have any cases against me.

African ( Gavin ) are you on some self appointed vendetta cause you can't keep up with the big dogs ? You'd probably be better off back in France but rather stick to French poodles , you'd fair better with them.

You A-holes dont seem to get it my business is my business and I'm quite in the know about regulation's. I was asked to back up on a big hunt for high profile clients. A lot of lion were shot in a short space of time and we tracked the cats that were wounded with my hounds and took some pictures.All the documentation is complete and correct and permits were issued.

Oh by the way I neither requested for the picture to be sent here or did I do it myself.

Will I do it again - YES , I'm in the tracking business using trail hounds, thats how I make a living. I dont do this as a hobby or part time like African.

Roy Sparks.

[Roy Sparks]

Anyone took the Jack Russell story seriously needs a brain scan.


African dream on boy , while you were pussing around in France with the high and mighty you could have been catching the tail end of some proper hound work here in Africa , sadly a dwindling dream especially in your province Northern Transvaal. Never was a past time there or in your culture and heritage.The only hunting you can really do legally there is track up wounded animals or declared problem animals.

This is why you hurting so badly, cause I was asked to back up on this big hunt on your doorstep and you did not get the nod from the outfitter. Tough when you still making a name.

We in the East Cape are the Houndmen here in Africa and we'll die houndmen.We hunt high and low, far and wide freely with our hounds - cause for a bit of jealousy ? Yes and I'm even on standby to hunt lion here in the Eastern Cape - for real. Still jealous?

We hunt caracal , jackal , year round no restrictions. Can you do that legally in your province ?

We can also legally hunt , bushbuck , grey duiker , blue duiker and bushpig in the good old Eastern Cape with our hounds ( legally !! ).

Can't help but feel the creepy taste of jealousy brooding in you.

Roy Sparks.

[arizonabeagle]

you know, i dont know all the ins and outs of african hunting regulations..to be honest i could give to craps about africa..but from what i've read on this board, african(when he posts) usually makes post that contribute to something, makes you think..always brings something to a conversation about hounds.
most guys on here are in this sport we call hound hunting for the fun, for the dogs, some guys have it bred into em, its a way of life..it seems to me Roy all you care about is the paycheck at the end and i have no respect for that. i mean sure you might have some awesome dogs, i figure a guys got to to trail on dry ground in africa, but you could have the best damn dogs in the universe but it aint worth a shit if your in it for the wrong reasons.
Roy all i've seen from you is post about how good your dogs are, how many critters you kill, how many people pay top dollar to follow your pack of dogs around blah blah blah
so how bout lets hear the real stories on these monster lions your clients killed were REALLY killed, i mean hell if i ever got the chance to do it you bet your ass i'd be talkin about it for years, i'd be proud..so why arent you proud to tell the story? are you hideing something?

[African]

There is a very dedicated community of Houndsmen based in all the provinces of South Africa, Namibia, Botswana, Zimbabwe and Mozambique committed to the future of Hound hunting on our continent.
Where others may see this sport/industry/recreation as a dwindling prospect I see it as a time to amplify our efforts through legitimate, perceptive actions that can promote acceptance and inclusion in the African hunting industry.
Many individuals are currently engaged in discussions with authorities in Namibia, Zimbabwe and South Africa with the prospect of entrenching the use of hounds, not only as an acceptable, but a preferred method.
Time, effort and finances have been invested in this endeavour and all have subscribed to a co-operative mature plan.

Posting pictures on a global forum of suspicious illegal activity for personal braggart is contradicting the enterprise in which I am engaged.
If indeed the hunt were conducted legally then a simple explanation would have sufficed and the use of hounds in resolving a dangerous situation would have been commended.



Personally what I learnt in France and Europe was invaluable and has improved my knowledge, experience and understanding of hounds two-fold.
I remain humbled by the lessons learnt and by the continuous efforts of local Houndsmen committed to our success.


Hounds have traditionally found an acceptable home in the Eastern Cape province of South Africa due to the historical absence of Tsetse fly. Our history records the numerous attempts to introduce domestic stock to the ‘wild’ northeastern lowveld of SA without success. Only once the Tsetse was controlled did hounds make a regular appearance and have been consistently used in dealing with problem animals ever since.
This renowned dangerous game country spreads north into Zimbabwe from where the Rhodesian ridgeback originates, a hound specially bred for dealing with livestock predators because the attempts to use ‘foxhounds’ from the Cape region proved unsatisfactory due to their fearful nature when confronting LARGE feline predators.

I will not have the possibilities for my future with hunting hounds jeopardised by any desperate individuals whose inclusion in an accredited structure is uncertain at best.
It is evident for all to interpret and futile for me to submit any further comments.

[Roy Sparks]

I made it clear in my introductory post on this forum that I am a bounty hunter , thats how I make a living. If I get tracking work for my hounds and the money and the deal's good I go.

Ethic's , African, do not only apply to hunting but to the way you conduct your every day lifestyle. You a bit rough around the edges in that respect , fortunately you've told me enough of how you try to opperate with your hounds for me to know that. However I'm going to refrain from opening a can of worms.

You starting to sound like a sanctimonious prostitute the way you are going on and your theories are way misinformed.Reading is good for you but it helps to back that with a lot of experience , which by the way I know you lack.

The leading hounds in our country stem from the East Cape and so do the leading houndmen on big or small predators. You got lots to learn and a bunch to catch up.

Arizonabeagle I dont give a toss this way or that about what you think about earning a pay cheque from hunting - I do , it's what I do for a living. I'm not about to make appologies for what I do as a bread winner for my family.

Most of your leading hound breeders ( houndmen ) in the states have their roots in bounty hunting for predators - I guess the pay checks were not important to them or what ?

Roy Sparks.

[chilcotin hillbilly]

Arizonabeagle, comments like yours crack me up. Spoken like a weekend warrior that dreams of one day earning a living doing what he loves. What better way to make a living following the sound of your hounds!!!