Oldtime Big Game Hounds

dukey · Post by **dukey** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:01 pm

liontracker, what bloodline are your blue's. i have two old fashioned blues my male is 95lbs and my female 85lbs, and they hunt and do great.

cecil j. · Post by **cecil j.** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:22 pm

dukey wrote:liontracker, what bloodline are your blue's. i have two old fashioned blues my male is 95lbs and my female 85lbs, and they hunt and do great.

Is it just me or does that blue dog of Green`s named Scout/ look like a typical Vaughn bluetick !?

liontracker · Post by **liontracker** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:08 am

I hunt two strains - Cameron and Sugar Creek. I'll bet yours come from Sonny huh? If I'm not mistaken, Scout was before Vaughn started raising Blues. But some of Vaughns' blood probably goes back to Greens'. Does anyone know for sure?

thomas · Post by **thomas** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:51 am

I think your right can't be 110% but will check.

considered crossing up cameron and sugar creek ???????
or staying in line.

liontracker · Post by **liontracker** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:41 pm

I'm going both ways. The pup in the above pic is a Cameron x Sugar Creek cross. I keep hearing that a Big Blue can't keep up and won't last, but if that was true, why did so many of the oldtimers run them? I'll bet it was because those oldstyle Big Blues had the highest level of intelligence and the coldest nose of anything available at that time. For my way of hunting those two traits are the most important, the rest is fine tuning. In all actuality, the wicked-coldnosed part is the most important. Because, if after hiking 5 miles and climbing up and down in these rims for the better part of a day, I cut a 3 day old track on a dry burnt up south slope, I need a hound that can get it done. Otherwise I could have taken a sight seeing trip into some way friendlier country!
Apicture is worth a thousand words :

dukey · Post by **dukey** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:43 pm

I got both of mine from Bob Mattscheck. They go back to Vaughn, Oiver grant, Jake Sides and a lot more of the old time breeders. Bob did live in montana but now lives back east.

liontracker · Post by **liontracker** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:51 pm

Hey Dukey, straight from Mattcheck? Can you post a pic?

thomas · Post by **thomas** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:28 pm

How long ago did you get a dog from Bob
Just wondering
None of my buisness really.

Wasn't Green depredation hunting for a livestock association?

dukey · Post by **dukey** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:50 pm

I got a Female from him back in 2004 she was 2 years old when i got her. the i got a male in 2005. I'll try to post a pick, but i haven't done it before

dukey · Post by **dukey** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:06 pm

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dukey · Post by **dukey** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:11 pm

the first pic is my male baying up a coon in a hole.
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dukey · Post by **dukey** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:15 pm

liontracker · Post by **liontracker** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:12 pm

Dukey-Thanks, either one out of Maximillion I ?

Thomas, I believe your right about the assoc. Where ya from?

Pops · Post by **Pops** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:01 pm

thomas
you're surely exagerating. there is not a scenthound alive that can outrun "most" greyhounds. coldblood or hot, any healthy grey will go over 40mph most will approach 45 & a rare few might even break that. my crossbred dog will top 40 for 3-5 miles on any normal day. he'll do 35-40 for 10-12 miles. nonsighthounds will only reach these speeds for distances under 50 yards. surely you were exagerating for effect.

don't take it to heart, just giving you a hard time.

cecil j. · Post by **cecil j.** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:21 pm

Pops wrote:thomas
you're surely exagerating. there is not a scenthound alive that can outrun "most" greyhounds. coldblood or hot, any healthy grey will go over 40mph most will approach 45 & a rare few might even break that. my crossbred dog will top 40 for 3-5 miles on any normal day. he'll do 35-40 for 10-12 miles. nonsighthounds will only reach these speeds for distances under 50 yards. surely you were exagerating for effect.

don't take it to heart, just giving you a hard time.

I`m not goen too say a old bluetick from Sugar Creek coud run up with even a fasr Smokey River Bluetick back in the 59 erra, but could sure stay within 15-20 ft behind on a doors out lion race or bobcat race run maybe 12 ft behind em.
But ya know something buddy a female Calhound is everybit as fast as a grayhound and if ya knowed as much about gray hounds as your sayen ya do youd know then too, ok maybe the first pass in a 160 acre field of alfallffa yea a grayhound leads the pack, but on the turn back here come that McNabbs sheppard and blows that greyhounds doors off and catches that jackrabbit who is not high hoppen but ears layed out flatt and low too the ground burnnen speed for his life. Well I didn1t run my calhound gyps on rabits but did on gray fox,red fox & cyute and they run just a flippen quickly and burnen whole in the wind speed as any gosh darned gray hound/ nuff said befor I start scolden ya on speaken were ya just don`t have the understanding too be speaken !

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